TV: Lost - Season 1 - SPOILER (Season 1)

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Right-mouse-click and save it. It's a 20MB WMV with Jimmy Kimmel on the set of lost. They show the monster at the end.
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It's a diary. I think it's Michael's diary, because from what I've read it mentions just about every other likely suspect. Or maybe Sayid. I don't remember his name, and he might be a more likely canidate.


Its not Michael's or Sayid's as both are mentioned.

Its got to be another nameless survivor and quite a creative way to provide a rundown of all the episodes.
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Yeah, it's probably someone nameless. I'm reading through it now. He was friends with woman who drowned. They went diving together, and he thought that it didn't make sense for her to swim out like that. She would have known the currents and how to avoid the rip tide.
Hmmm.... Maybe the guy that Jack saved was chasing her? Or was there another motive?
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This post names most people, thereby eliminating them. It's got to be some non-highlighted character. There are still plenty of strangers in that group of survivors.
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I went through the entire diary.
The character is female, a victim of violence in Lousianna, and knows one of the castaways from Louisianna.

Here are the notes I took from the diary.

It's a female. "Larry" hit on her.
She also mentioned a "Scott" in the previous post.

A whale? Perhaps a sea monster, or submarine.

More on creepy Larry, and a, "People aren't always what they seem, if anyone knows that by now it's me" quote.

Source: (After hearing that Ethan kidnapped Claire and Charlie)
"God, it's like the nightmare is starting all over again! You can't tell me that I survived that week in Louisianna to be thrown back into this again. I told myself every singe day in the hospital that all I had to do was stay alive. Just survive and make it to the trial. And the rest of my life would be perfect - that's what this trip was supposed to be about!"

Unnatural ocean currents take away the plane wreckage. She has and mysterious dive bag contents.

Exercizing daily and trading things for protein to stay fit, to not be unprepared again.

Took a nap after a jog, woke up at night to a whispering jungle.

We have no idea how big the island is.

A weapon in the dive bag? And she trips Scott with every bone broken after seeing a mysterous person who was following her.

Thinks Charlie killing Ethan was good. "I bet Ethan killed Scott, too. What a psycho! Maybe now we can all rest a little easier."

Saw Walt with (valuable) matches. Thinks he burned the raft down.

Secretly followed Locke and Boone to the metal door.

"Locke and Boone have no right to keep it to themselves! Who do they think they are, anyway? God, I'm so confused!" I think they were looking for an excuse to use the word "God" after asking that question.
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I haven't looked at any of the spoiler sites but I noticed the connections between the characters. Hurley and Locke. I haven't heard about someone being poisoned.
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Locke and Michael may have been hit by the same car.

Someone else in this posts suggests that Hugo (the crazy guy who gave Hurley the numbers) may have been in the hospital with Locke's mother.

This has some interesting observations about Walt, making him responisble for Scott's broken corpse.
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Found something on the diary writer on the forums:
I remember reading the Lost creators calling the diarist Mustang Sally and she was the girl in the background wearing brown when Jack was playing golf.


She knows a lot, so either a lot will be revealed to everybody (IE, Locke's metal door), or she'll have to make a significant appearance.




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In reference to Walt, I have a hunch that he isn't as big a part of the storyline as people might think.

According to the creators, there won't be anything in the show that can't be explained with real science.

If they stay true to that, I'd say Walt having the same powers as the kid from Twilight Zone: The Movie is pretty unlikely.
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I don't see the science of those numbers, unless there's some sort of wrinkle in time or paradox thing going on.

Here's my theory:

It's not a stretch to assume that the island is volcanic. Strange "black rock" with magnetic and other odd characteristics has bubbled up from deep inside the earth.

Due to the "Bermuda Triangle nature" or "EMP effect" of this black rock substance, it screws up electronics, compasses, and possibly gravity. This can cause anybody in the area to be drawn to it and crash. If it affects gravity, it'd affect the tides as well, which would even screw with non-iron boats. The tide would suck out any wreckage on the beach (like it did the plane), and the jungle would hide any wreckage inland.

Another effect of the black rock could be that it makes animals/people stonger. This would make Ethan super stong, and allow Charlie to come back from the dead.

The boars were probably planted by sailors. It was a common practice back in the day, so that they've have a souce of food when they passed by years later.

The polar bears were probably escapees from a crashed circus, or travelling zoo.

I've been telling my wife since episode 2 that I think the monster is a derranged jumbo elephant. Locke was calm and quiet when he met it, so he got off. The pilot agitated it, so he got thrown into a tree. If the black rock made little Ethan a super-man, it'd *seriously* juice up (aka Barry Bondsify) an elephant.

The U.S., or some other government knows about this substance but has no claim to the island and doesn't want others to know about it, so they set up a secret scientific post on the island. That is Locke's mystery door.
The scientists may have been using the black rock for time travel experiments, which screw up reality a bit, creating paradoxes that the cosmos needs to work out in weird ways.

This is the fuzzy part where I'm sort of grasping. By weird ways I mean that the universe makes weird coincidences that must happen in order to get people where they need to be for the time snafu's to be worked out. So basically, if there was a paradox, and assuming there's no predestination, a time segment would loop over and over again until all the characters played out in such a way that the event that causde the paradox does not happen again (this assumes time is not simply linear, IE no predestination).
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The plane was sucked off the island cuz it was too expensive for the production to keep having it there.
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We've all seen Locke get shot in the promos which is a good sign since they'd never show the death of a character in a promo.

More good news for fans of his character is that he seems to get shot during this Wednesday's episode.

Why is that good news? The next islander won't die until the season finale.

I'm betting its the sister or the doc who shoots Locke. Sayid doesn't fit that crime. However, I think he's the person that's poisoning someone as according to the rumors he is trying to kill someone (I'm thinking Jack).
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I take it back. Locke may not be shot until next week.

Still, I expect him to survive as I have a hunch he'll know its coming.
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it'd be hard for me to believe that they'd kill one of the main four.
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Weren't they originally going to kill Jack the first episode?
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Yes
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As long as Locke lives and is still around I'll be happy.
Here's the characters I don't want to die, in order of wished invulnerability. That is, I hope the monster works its way up from the bottom of the list:
1) Locke
2) Kate (needs a spanking)
3) Sawyer
4) Hurley
5) Dominic
6) Sayid
7) Michael
8) Walt
9) Tie with Claire, Jin, Sun, and Michael.
13) Shannon

Jin and Sun don't appear enough to be really interesting. Michael just seems like a vehicle to get his devil-seed/son on the island. Ditto with claire. And I just dislike Shannon.

Unfortunately I don't see any way that Shannon can die. Boone didn't contribute enough, and it would suck to cut out their part of the story. Besides, I heard that Boone will appear next season, and I assume it'll be in Shannon's dream/vision.

As for the "it would suck to cut out their part of the story" I mentioned last paragraph, I meant that they're probably not going to "invalidate" (for lack of a better word) an entire storyline leading to getting on the island. No timeline dead-ends. For this reason I think the person who dies in the finale will have a partner. So Jin or Sun, or Michael or Walt are the most likely to die. Oh... and Walt seems too important to die.

My guess is that Michael dies.
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You forgot Jack in your list.

IMHO:
-I thought Jack was being poisoned, but I'm not positive. Sawyer is a good bet due to his spot on the raft, but so is Michael.
-Jack, Kate, and Sawyer cannot die due to the love triangle and because they're the three biggest characters on the show.
-Locke should never be killed either as he is the single most interesting character on the show. I also think killing him would piss off most of their male audience.
-If there ever is a series finale episode made, I believe Locke will remain on the island.
-I think Boone may have only been killed because of his behind the scenes bitching.
-Boone's death actually makes Shannon expendable. Without him, most of her backstory means nothing. She was more of an accessory to his character. Now she's simply a plot device for the Sayid and Locke characters.
-I was thinking Charlie could die until they found the plane full of heroin.
-There is no one answer to all the mysteries on the island. (This is actually fact according to the show's writers.)
-Jin has a lot of story left to tell and is rumored to start speaking English soon.
-Michael has become linked to Jin, but other than that, his storyline is weak. The fact that he's black might give him a better chance of survival.
-Claire has become expendable. Her only real storyline now would be a romance with Charlie. I know she just had a kid, but due to the psychic's warning, it'd be much more interesting if she were dead.
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I left Jack off? No I didn't. When I said "needs a spanking" I meant them my... oh... you mean the character. Nevermind.

He's probably my 4th or 5th favorite, but I think his death would add to the show. You'd get the "oh no they didn't" factor that'd make everybody expendable. So I put him about even with Sayid in 6th.




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