I guess technically there's spoilers here. Ye've been warned ...
So, in "Pitch Black," the second of the holy man's sons finds himself in the shadows as the big photophobic (possibly due to porphyria) aliens are searching the general vicinity. Riddick appears from behind the kid in the shadows & says, "Very bad timing." Then, after a few seconds, he says, "Just don't run." Naturally, the kid bolts & gets iced. Given that Vin ain't the greatest actor in history & given that David Twohy himself said the shooting was hectic, I've always wondered Riddick's true intent w\ the "Just don't run," line. Was he trying to help the kid or help himself?
For those who've seen Pitch Black - What was Riddick's intent (read & vote)
Riddick's character was pretty straight forward it that he'd give you advice on how to survive, but wouldn't lift a muscle to help you if you didn't listen.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
I don't think he was trying to kill the kid. My argument being later when Johns later says kill the girl and use her for bait, Riddick decides to fight Johns instead.
And this is a great, timely thread, considering my as-yet-unveiled halloween costume...
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And this is a great, timely thread, considering my as-yet-unveiled halloween costume...
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
There was this point in "Conan : the Barbarian" where John Milius (the director) points out where Conan stops being an instrument of vengeance & ultimately self-centred, & becomes heroic. He says the point is near the end, when Conan goes back to take on the temple full of Set followers.
Similarly, Riddick acts in much the same manner as Conan (making deals or doing things that get him ahead). The first time he does something really self-less (I think) was when he turns around after he hears Jack trapped by the alien. Up till that point, he's a utilitarian bastard. & the entire discussion of the "bait" just makes my brain think more that he might've been tricking the kid.
So, on one hand you've got a pragmatist w\ zero conscience (up to that point in the film, at least) w\ a possible advantage he can exploit. On the other hand, it's not a helluva lot of an advantage since there's more than one critter, they're fast, & he's still got a decent sprint to make before getting back to his companions. Having just one decoy ain't the greatest plan. Riddick's usually smarter.
Then again, maybe he figured the things would just flush him out like they did the kid & taking off now is probably better than taking off later.
Dunno, shit like this just bugs me when I can't settle on a definitive answer.
Similarly, Riddick acts in much the same manner as Conan (making deals or doing things that get him ahead). The first time he does something really self-less (I think) was when he turns around after he hears Jack trapped by the alien. Up till that point, he's a utilitarian bastard. & the entire discussion of the "bait" just makes my brain think more that he might've been tricking the kid.
So, on one hand you've got a pragmatist w\ zero conscience (up to that point in the film, at least) w\ a possible advantage he can exploit. On the other hand, it's not a helluva lot of an advantage since there's more than one critter, they're fast, & he's still got a decent sprint to make before getting back to his companions. Having just one decoy ain't the greatest plan. Riddick's usually smarter.
Then again, maybe he figured the things would just flush him out like they did the kid & taking off now is probably better than taking off later.
Dunno, shit like this just bugs me when I can't settle on a definitive answer.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Riddick is one of the most interesting bad-ass antiheroes I've come across. But I dunno if I'm a fan of what they're doing to him. All the weird big scope, superhuman-type crap that starts in "Chronicles." I liked "Pitch Black" better, where he still showed some mortality. Like he loses 1-on-1 against Johns. Then, a movie later, he's wiping out supposedly well-trained, professional troops five at a time & then he commands an entire army.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I got no problem w\ fantasy, but it just seems like they'd a list of shit that they wanted to do & came up w\ lame-ass ways to tie it together coherently. I still say the worst scene in "Chronicles" was Riddick getting surrounded by the Necromongers after the escape from Crematoria & unleashing that energy wave that radiates from him at the crucial moment. I remember just taking a long drink & letting the alcohol numb it away.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Chronicles sucked balls.
Pitch Black, the cartoon about Riddick (I remember it being good and better than the second movie), and the game "Escape From Butcher Bay" are the Riddick stories worth your time.
Pitch Black, the cartoon about Riddick (I remember it being good and better than the second movie), and the game "Escape From Butcher Bay" are the Riddick stories worth your time.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
They pulled that shit in there, too. Twenty menthols my ass.Leisher wrote:...the game "Escape From Butcher Bay" are the Riddick stories worth your time.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I agree, I hate that too.Malcolm wrote:I still say the worst scene in "Chronicles" was Riddick getting surrounded by the Necromongers after the escape from Crematoria & unleashing that energy wave that radiates from him at the crucial moment. I remember just taking a long drink & letting the alcohol numb it away.
Did you see the director's cut where he talks to the dead chick from his homeworld and she explains why he has that power? That stuff wasn't in the theatrical cut.
Furian energy.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Yeah. For some reason, I'dn't seen the film in the cinema & was walking by it on the Wally World or Target racks one night. Came as a package deal w\ "Pitch Black" for like $12 or something. So the first time I saw the flick was the Director's Cut. & it still pissed me off. I do not care to imagine my reaction had I been subjected to it sans spiritual guidance chick.GORDON wrote:Did you see the director's cut where he talks to the dead chick from his homeworld and she explains why he has that power? That stuff wasn't in the theatrical cut.
Furian energy.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Eh, neutral folk like that always come off as very manipulative & cryptic to me. I just naturally dislike that ilk. On the other hand, evenhanded fuckers like that make spectacular movie narrators.GORDON wrote:I also didn't like the "elemental" Judy Dentch, much.
Or however her name is apelled.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."