Bristol Palin

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:21 pm

That second time was totally on purpose.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:24 pm

Chelsae Clinton: off limits.
Obama daughters: off limits.
Bush daughter: butt of jokes.
Palin's family: butt of jokes.

I'm seeing a trend, here.

Post by **Troy** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:27 pm

She's 24 man. Who cares whose daughter she is. When someone accepts a quarter million to publicly speak to teenagers on the basis that "abstinence is the only true birth control" and then has ANOTHER out of wedlock child, I'd say it's open game to call her a hypocrite.

Slut-shaming is not cool, but you can call a spade a spade. She's a massive hypocrite.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:27 pm

The Clintons and Obamas didn't and haven't let their daughters get arrested for underage drinking or get knocked up.

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Post by **Troy** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:30 pm

I really don't have any problem with her being sexual active, she and her family are affluent and can provide care for those children.

It's the hypocrisy and two-facedness. I'm not going to go searching again, but there are pages and pages of her basically judging and posting online/speaking about other women making similar decisions.

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Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:30 pm

Troy wrote:She's 24 man. Who cares whose daughter she is. When someone accepts a quarter million to publicly speak to teenagers on the basis that "abstinence is the only true birth control" and then has ANOTHER out of wedlock child, I'd say it's open game to call her a hypocrite.

Slut-shaming is not cool, but you can call a spade a spade. She's a massive hypocrite.

Well as long as we can keep piling on the Palins, because they are the only hypocrites in the world, then it's all good. I mean, the uppity bitch actually ran on the ticket as VP against Obama 7 years ago. Can you imagine the nerve?

Post by **Troy** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:34 pm

I don't give a shit whose daughter she is, it's in the quote you just made.

For all I care, her name is Bristol Abstinence Advocate. I really disagree with the ideology, it's one of the few things I take a strong stand on and give a shit about. Full and open sex education is super important to me.

At this point she's making far more points for proper sex education than the other way.

You are the one inserting the rest of the Palin family into this thread.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:34 pm

The only reason anyone knows her name is because of her family, I don't know how you can separate the two.

Post by **Troy** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:35 pm

Because children are not their parents, and can make their own decisions?

I don't care how she got famous, it's what she does with the notoriety that irks me.

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Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:36 pm

Well now you lost me.

The only reason anyone knows her is because her family got publicly destroyed in the election, and that only happens to one party. That's always bugged me.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:38 pm

GORDON wrote:Well now you lost me.

The only reason anyone knows her is because her family got publicly destroyed in the election, and that only happens to one party. That's always bugged me.

I'll say it again, not my problem that one party has set itself up as a pariah in the press.

Post by **TPRJones** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:44 pm

Sometimes Democrats get their public image destroyed in elections, too. Admittedly it's been awhile since there's been a big one. Dukakis and Hart are the most recent two I can think of.

Democrats believe some stupid shit, but unlike some Republicans they can generally keep from looking like a complete retard during elections.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:57 pm

Here's what I remember about the 2008 election, VPs, offhand:

Palin-
-Governor of Alaska
- Husband Todd
- At one time he worked for some oil refinery
- Lots of kids
- One had Down's
- Lots of people said the Down's baby was actually her underage daughter's and they were covering it up, a rumor that persists
- Palin had a $50k wardrobe budget from the republican party for campaigning and debating
- Heart made them stop using their song because palin's old nickname was "Sarah Barracuda."
- It was often said that she didn't have enough executive experience as Governor of Alaska compared to a community organizer like Barak Obama.
- A bunch more things but I haven't thought of it in a long time. Point being, the entire family got blasted by everyone except Fox News.

Biden-
- His last name was Biden, I think he first name was Joe.
- He was a senator or something
- No idea if he was married or had kids

I did no research on any of them, that is what the media said often enough about them for me to learn through osmosis. I hate hypocrites, too, but I don't see the humor in setting up a dumb, young girl to fail over and over in order to embarrass what I perceive as my political enemies. The hypocrisy is in the denial of it all. And that is how I see it.... I knew the moment she got her own TV show way back when that it was just to air a conservative trainwreck for ratings.

I honestly am not passionate about this... it isn't my trigger... but I do have a somewhat functioning memory.

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Post by **Troy** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:04 pm

At some point Bristol needs to stand alone as a person. Without having her mother brought up.

Bristol's been far more of a public figure than her mother since the failed VP bid. Dancing with the stars, some other reality show, speaking tours?

I understand that you think the treatment of her mother was unfair, and there is truth in that. I do also recall that she also made some rather bone-headed PR moves and statements, which the media seized on.

But she needs to be her own person, and not deflect real criticism of her with "only because you don't like my mother." To her credit, she has not done that in the posts and interviews that I have seen.

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Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:06 pm

I don't disagree with anything you just said. I just happen to think the only reason she remains in the public eye is because of her mother. I think if she ever got her shit together and became successful at something she would suddenly stop being interesting to the media.

Post by **Vince** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:11 pm

GORDON wrote:I don't disagree with anything you just said. I just happen to think the only reason she remains in the public eye is because of her mother. I think if she ever got her shit together and became successful at something she would suddenly stop being interesting to the media.

Absolutely. If she cured cancer the headline would read Bristol Palin, unwed mother and daughter of GOP VP candidate Sarah Palin cures cancer! Puts Oncologists on food stamps!

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Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:12 pm

Point being, the entire family got blasted by everyone except Fox News.

I saw Palin in the VP debates. She did nothing to help McCain.

Post by **Troy** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:18 pm

Ok, seems like were all generally in agreement about Bristol. I'll get off my sex-ed soapbox.

As far Sarah. I feel like I had not heard much about her for a while until early this year. I remember her giving an absolutely bat-shit insane speech - let me look it up.

Yes, wtf was this anyway? It blipped on my radar at some point, and seemed to reinforce the stereotype.

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Post by **GORDON** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:20 pm

I remember when she said she could see Russia from her house, and a lot of people thought she was serious.

Post by **Vince** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:55 pm

She actually never said that. See said Russia was close enough to Alaska that you could see it from the banks in parts of Alaska. It was Tina Fey as Palin that said she could see it from her house.