Ebola - cuz it needs its own thread...
The problem is always other people, though. If they think you have a snickers bar in your pocket they are going to rip through your visqueen and duct tape to get at it.Malcolm wrote:I will go into ground zero of an ebola-infected zone you got. Provided I got my $20 of biohaz gear.
Maybe more than a month. I think there would start being food drops by then, is what I based it on.
Hopefully my local authorities will know the right time to enforce a 100% quarantine. Let the infected households die before they infect their neighbors, then burn their houses down when it's all over. One month of "don't leave your house or you will be shot on sight" and the problem takes care of itself.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Even knowing what we know about the disease, if you had been on that flight, how normal would your routine be right now?
If you're a parent or married, how far would you go to keep from potentially infecting loved ones?
Would you work from home for the next 3 weeks?
This CDC chief is a moron, but how has nobody questioned his majesty yet? How come more people aren't talking smack about the dude that died? He's the one who lied about his condition in the first place.
If you're a parent or married, how far would you go to keep from potentially infecting loved ones?
Would you work from home for the next 3 weeks?
This CDC chief is a moron, but how has nobody questioned his majesty yet? How come more people aren't talking smack about the dude that died? He's the one who lied about his condition in the first place.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
He's a cocksucker but I get the "motivated self interest" of his actions. He's scum for infecting his family, though. The fault lies with our government at a national level for not preventing it, and that time is past. It's time to start thinking about what to do on a personal level.Leisher wrote:How come more people aren't talking smack about the dude that died? He's the one who lied about his condition in the first place.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Even knowing what we know about the disease, if you had been on that flight, how normal would your routine be right now?
Unless he coughed less than six inches from my face or I fell in a puddle of blood spontaneously spurted from his arteries, I wouldn't be worried. Maybe get one of these.
The most common diagnostic methods are therefore real-time PCR and ELISA detection of proteins, which can be performed in field or mobile hospitals.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I think things would go to shit pretty quick. It would require the national guard and body collection and disposal teams in full hazmat suits (not this stupid shit the CDC thinks you need to survive it).Troy wrote:Your guys' view of anarchy sure is ordered and structured.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Umm... what?
Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
You're probably right. But if you're wrong it'll be like "Wile Coyote leave a crater" wrong. I don't think we'll really know for a couple more months. So far it looks like it's as hard to pass before symptoms appear as they claim. Once sick, it seems to be easier to pass than they claim seeing as we've had two health care workers infected (so far) from just the one patient.TPRJones wrote:Even if it does spread further, I predict that the flu will still kill at least 100 times more people on US soil in the next 12 months than ebola does.
Anyone want to make that into a bet?
If they don't get a handle on this in the hospitals, Ebola may kill more people with the flu simply by being in the area and hospital workers not showing up for work. If you see what I'm saying. Hospital personnel are starting to get understandably agitated.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
The second closest hospital to me where I took my mother in law yesterday had ebola signs up in the lobby, about how if you are showing X symptoms, notify staff immediately.
And I was flirting with one of her doctors a few days ago and I made an ebola joke and her response made it obvious she had read up on procedures recently.
And I was flirting with one of her doctors a few days ago and I made an ebola joke and her response made it obvious she had read up on procedures recently.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
If they sneeze on some metal hand rails, it's still transmission.Vince wrote:Umm... what?
Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Ebola can survive at room temperature for about five days if suspended in blood. So technically yes you can get it from a handrail that someone coughed blood on but only if you rub that blood into a cut on your hand or directly into your eyes, mouth, nose, genitals, or anus after touching it. Even if you touch the microscopic blood bits that have ebola in them, the odds are small that you'll infect yourself with it before rubbing it off on some other surface. And you can't get infected from just one or even a hundred individual viruses. Like other viruses it takes several thousand or million to get enough of a foothold to get you.
So transmission on a bus is unlikely unless there's a lot of blood being flung around (beware the bleeding epileptic ebola patient!), but certainly not impossible. Still the way he said that was really dumb.
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So transmission on a bus is unlikely unless there's a lot of blood being flung around (beware the bleeding epileptic ebola patient!), but certainly not impossible. Still the way he said that was really dumb.
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Is this how the nurses got it?TPRJones wrote:So technically yes you can get it from a handrail that someone coughed blood on but only if you rub that blood into a cut on your hand or directly into your eyes, mouth, nose, genitals, or anus after touching it.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Not really sure, but from what I gather they probably got it from improper handling of infected protection gear. If so, then essentially yes. With the difference being that the infected item was known to be infected instead of being a random unknown encounter. If that's all true then there's really no excuse, they should have known better.
Although I haven't seen where the CDC is forthcoming with details, so that's mostly built on speculation I must admit.
Although I haven't seen where the CDC is forthcoming with details, so that's mostly built on speculation I must admit.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Dennis Miller is telling Bill O'Reilly that the NBC Medical Chief needs to be fired because she was home on ebola quarantine and she left her apartment to go get soup.
Wow. Medically it is entirely possible to do that with complete safety if proper precautions are taken. But politically that is plain stupid with all the panic floating around. She probably should be let go just for PR reasons.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
They got it by being stupid. Biohaz protocol is not difficult in a controlled environment for a disease like this. Chalk it up to incompetence.GORDON wrote:Is this how the nurses got it?TPRJones wrote:So technically yes you can get it from a handrail that someone coughed blood on but only if you rub that blood into a cut on your hand or directly into your eyes, mouth, nose, genitals, or anus after touching it.
Rubbing it into your eyes isn't totally out of the question, but I say that as a contact lens wearer.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."