Marriage Equality

[Vince]

For species, you'll still have some grey areas.

I don't consider that a grey area. Horses and donkeys make mules all the time. Those are pretty easy to classify. Centuries before we even knew what DNA was, we understood what a mule was.

[Malcolm]

You talking a mule or a hinny? Because there's a genetic difference. Even looking past that, the offspring don't behave the same as the parents.

There are no recorded cases of fertile mule stallions. A few mare mules have produced offspring when mated with a purebred horse or donkey.

Would be nice to know why. And without some solid knowledge of DNA, you never will.



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[Vince]

Since mules are the most common and easier to produce of the two, we'll say mules.

[Vince]

* Sigh *

ok

[Malcolm]

You might get a high-level understanding of genetics by watching it in action. All the annoying, pain in the ass questions need details.

[TPRJones]

1) As a libertarian and someone strongly in favor of individual freedoms, I would challenge anyone to show how letting someone label themselves as a gender different from the one with which they were born causes direct harm to another citizen. If it fails to cause direct harm to another citizen then there is no justifiable reason to not let them do it. IMO.

2) I don't know what the city is trying to do, but clearly they've gone completely off the rails of legality with that sermons thing. If I were one of those pastors I'd tell them to fuck off. However, that having been said

3) {quote}"In other words – the city is rummaging for evidence to “out” the pastors as anti-gay bigots."{/quote} Like that would take any effort at all. Most of those pastors are absolutely anti-gay bigots and there is no doubt about it. Not because they are opposed to legalizing gay marriage, but because they're in favor of isolating the homosexuals from the rest of society so that they don't spread their dreadful plague of sin. Some of these guys talk about gays the same way the nazis used to talk about jews. That is not an exaggeration, that is a statement that is meant to be literal.

[Malcolm]

As a libertarian and someone strongly in favor of individual freedoms, I would challenge anyone to show how letting someone label themselves as a gender different from the one with which they were born causes direct harm to another citizen.

"Won't SOMEONE think of the children?!"

[Vince]

As a libertarian and someone strongly in favor of individual freedoms, I would challenge anyone to show how letting someone label themselves as a gender different from the one with which they were born causes direct harm to another citizen.

"Won't SOMEONE think of the children?!"

Spoken like someone without any

[Vince]

1) As a libertarian and someone strongly in favor of individual freedoms, I would challenge anyone to show how letting someone label themselves as a gender different from the one with which they were born causes direct harm to another citizen. If it fails to cause direct harm to another citizen then there is no justifiable reason to not let them do it. IMO.

Having raised two girls for varying amounts of time, and having sisters and nieces... If some guy came out of the women's restroom behind my young daughter or niece or whatever, it doesn't matter what gender he identifies with, he's getting kicked in the fucking junk. I suspect at that point he'll claim to be a dude.

[Malcolm]

If some guy came out of the women's restroom behind my young daughter or niece or whatever, it doesn't matter what gender he identifies with, he's getting kicked in the fucking junk.

I assume you'll extend the same courtesy to women walking out of the men's room?

[GORDON]

If some guy came out of the women's restroom behind my young daughter or niece or whatever, it doesn't matter what gender he identifies with, he's getting kicked in the fucking junk.

I assume you'll extend the same courtesy to women walking out of the men's room?

Kicking her in the crotch would have way less impact. So to speak.

[Vince]

If some guy came out of the women's restroom behind my young daughter or niece or whatever, it doesn't matter what gender he identifies with, he's getting kicked in the fucking junk.

I assume you'll extend the same courtesy to women walking out of the men's room?

I'd punch her in the tits.

[TPRJones]

Punt to the cunt? That can hurt.

Would you do the same to a lesbian coming out of the ladies room, Vince? They're more likely to be into girls than some guy that wants to be a lady.

EDIT: More on topic, that's still not direct harm so I'd say you'd be in the wrong on that one even though I understand the impulse to do so. Now if something happened that IS direct harm by all means punt away, or worse. But that's about molestation, not some dude wanting to be a lady.



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[Vince]

To me it's pretty simple. If you have a penis, go to the mens room. If you have a hoo ha, go to the ladies room. This isn't rocket science. People where I work got all bent out of shape because there was a woman there going through gender reassignment. She had to live as a he for a year before they did the surgery, etc. The women got all freaked out about it, so she ended up with her own bathroom until they slapped a dick on her. To me it was stupid. No dickie... little girls room. Dickie... little boys room.

This really isn't that hard.

[TPRJones]

Then maybe instead of boys and girls bathrooms, we should call them penis and vagina rooms.



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[GORDON]

Then maybe instead of boys and girls bathrooms, we should call them penis and vagina rooms.

We probably should. People are going insane and need it clarified.

[Vince]

Then maybe instead of boys and girls bathrooms, we should call them penis and vagina rooms.

We probably should. People are going insane and need it clarified.

Apparently.

[Vince]

“This is the place where we stop the LGBT assault on the freedom to practice our faith.”

The gays aren't doing anything, fuckwit. The city's attorneys are the ones asking for your sermons. And they aren't doing it for anything remotely close to gay rights. They want reelection. They want money.

The mayor in Houston was a lesbian gay activist before getting elected, so at this point I don't know how distinctive the line is between the gay activists and the city government.

[TPRJones]

Mayor Parker used to be an activist who is gay, yes, but she's never been a "gay activist". Her activism was in relation to the Historical Preservation Society, not the LBGT community. She's never been liked very much by the actual gay activists in the city because of her unwillingness to loudly champion the causes they get worked up over.

I don't even know if she's officially pro- or anti- on the point of gay marriage. Her stance in her political career has been that it's not an issue that is pertinent to a city leader since it's determined at the capitol in Austin and not Houston. Of course she got married in California earlier this year so I'd imagine she's pro-, but it's a political stance she has avoided as irrelevant much to the ire of some in the gay community.

So, no, she was not a lesbian gay activist in the way you mean it. Up until this weird summoning of the sermons, the only thing she's done to annoy these preachers is just be gay.



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[Vince]

Thanks for the clarification TPR. I did not know that about her. I think this Sundays sermon shouldn't be about gay love or straight love, but about self love. Then invite the city attorneys to go fuck themselves.