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Leisher wrote:I mean, isn't she trying to cure the symptoms, and not the actual cause?
As far as I can tell, she is trying to shed all consequences from making bad decisions, under force of law.
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GORDON wrote:
Leisher wrote:I mean, isn't she trying to cure the symptoms, and not the actual cause?
As far as I can tell, she is trying to shed all consequences from making bad decisions, under force of law.
Exactly.
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Just like abortions, heh.
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Leisher wrote:If she sends out the picture/video to someone without specifying "don't show this to anyone", she doesn't waive rights to the photo/video?

In fact no, not unless she explicitly says so in her distribution. And even if she does so state she can later revoke that at any time unless there's a signed contract constraining the conditions under which she can do so.

What if she sends it to a mailing list by mistake?

An unfortunate error, but she still owns copyright and all rights to distribution etc etc etc unless she has signed a contract that constrains those rights. No gray areas here, not for copyright law. She can thank uncle Walt for that clarity.

What if she sends it to him, and tells him he can show her off (thinking in her head the photo would stay on the phone, and not be tweeted to the world)?

Same story, of course. She retains all rights etc etc etc.

How is Snapchat getting away with keeping all those photos?

How are twitter feeds posting all these pictures without consequences...or is that now coming thanks to this law?

As you say, you know the answer to these: Terms of Service. There's that contract I've been mentioning. Although the fact that it's not signed and witnessed and notarized does somewhat limit how binding it might be. A lot of the details of how binding TOS can be haven't been tested in courts just yet. A lot of it is still basically blue-sky wishful thinking by the lawyers drafting them up. I'm sure all of that will be nailed down a bit more firmly in the years to come.

I'll go you one bit further on this, though. Because it's ultimately a copyright issue, if Congress ever does get something like SOPA sneaked into law then in theory she could have him and his whole family tossed off the internet for his infringement, along with anyone else that shared it. Won't that be fun?




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The minute following when the government cuts off our access to porn and other things found on the internet to distract us, is the minute our government is removed from power by a very pissed off population.
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It's not me, it's someone else.
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I'd have been F1R5T had I not tracked down the appropriate threat to post it in.
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It's almost a philosophical question: if you create a product used to commit a crime, are you as guilty as the criminal who wields it?

No it's not, and no you're not. Do you hold the gasoline and lighter dudes responsible for arson? If someone hits you with their car, do you sue Honda?

The plaintiff argues that Tor's own descriptions of its services reveal that it knowingly assists websites like Pinkmeth in creating illegal services, similar to how some gun control advocates place responsibility on firearm manufactures for creating weapons that can be used for crime.

Tor lets you anonymously publish content. They're pretty up front about that.




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Malcolm wrote:
It's almost a philosophical question: if you create a product used to commit a crime, are you as guilty as the criminal who wields it?
No it's not, and no you're not. Do you hold the gasoline and lighter dudes responsible for arson? If someone hits you with their car, do you sue Honda?
The fact the same question keeps coming up over and over in different situations makes me think assholes are just trying and trying until they finally get a judgement they want and then they can cite that for eternity and just fuck everyone over.
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It's attributing responsibility to inanimate objects or processes so that the people themselves don't bear it as they should. The cowardice is astonishing. Then there's the hubris that you're in the right to punish everyone along the chain of events. How about going after the camera makers? How about going after Tim Berners-Lee? How about the ISP? How about the name service that handed out the website's DNS address?
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The power company that gave you power to run the PC with which you committed the crime.

I mean, just fuck these people so hard.
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GORDON wrote:The power company that gave you power to run the PC with which you committed the crime.

I mean, just fuck these people so hard.
What about those bastards who discovered fire to turn water into steam and make those turbines spin? Fuck fire.
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GORDON wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
It's almost a philosophical question: if you create a product used to commit a crime, are you as guilty as the criminal who wields it?
No it's not, and no you're not. Do you hold the gasoline and lighter dudes responsible for arson? If someone hits you with their car, do you sue Honda?
The fact the same question keeps coming up over and over in different situations makes me think assholes are just trying and trying until they finally get a judgement they want and then they can cite that for eternity and just fuck everyone over.
Hmm.
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Ha, and a woman is the first one convicted for posting revenge porn (first in Virginia?):

http://www.aol.com/article....0981337
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The act was considered a crime because of the harm caused when others saw it, according to the station.

Fucking wow. That's the justification?
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I swear to jeebus, if I can only teach my son one thing about life, it will be to NEVER write down stupid teenage love/angst stuff, especially on the internet. He WILL regret it.
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Or he could reform linkon park
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Vince wrote:Or he could reform linkon park
They have to split up first. God willing.
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