All caught up again with the most recent episode.
1. Why did Andrea lay flaccid outside the prison with the guvnah only holding his hand over her mouth? She is a never-quit fighter, up until that moment. He managed to get her away from there without Rick seeing and stuff her in a truck and tie her down to the chair, all by himself. She doesn't strike me as being that weak, and he didn't strike me as being that strong. I will just assume he knocked her out on the ground outside the prison.
2. I hope she never leaves the rape torture chair. I have never liked her and she needs to be gone from the show.
The Walking Dead - Season 3
I'm about four weeks behind now. It's gotten to be a boring slog between Rick going insane and the Governor/Andrea crap that I find annoying. I'm thinking about quitting the watching.
I just wanted to ask: does it get better soon? Should I keep watching?
I just wanted to ask: does it get better soon? Should I keep watching?
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1. Why did Andrea lay flaccid outside the prison with the guvnah only holding his hand over her mouth? She is a never-quit fighter, up until that moment. He managed to get her away from there without Rick seeing and stuff her in a truck and tie her down to the chair, all by himself. She doesn't strike me as being that weak, and he didn't strike me as being that strong. I will just assume he knocked her out on the ground outside the prison.
I think you're searching very, very hard to find things to hate about her. If I went to your home, I guarantee I could look through your movie collection and shred your favorites with questions like the one above.
That being said, I agree with you that Andrea is shit. In the book, she's fucking awesome. On the show, she's a completely different character aside from the "good shot" part. I cannot stress enough that nobody is as different from their counterpart in the book as Andrea, and personally, I hate what they've done to her. She's weak and pathetic.
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I dont think i am reaching at all, i think it is a valid criticism. She worked like hell to get away and then.... what? How did that happen? Almost as big a mistake as andrea hiding in the woods from the vehicle... she is alone... and suddenly, instantly, one zombie grabs her from behind and two more are five feet in front of her. I still like the show, but come on. They can try harder than that.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I dont think i am reaching at all, i think it is a valid criticism. She worked like hell to get away and then.... what? How did that happen? Almost as big a mistake as andrea hiding in the woods from the vehicle... she is alone... and suddenly, instantly, one zombie grabs her from behind and two more are five feet in front of her. I still like the show, but come on. They can try harder than that.
Apparently, you've never seen a horror film...ever. Or an action movie for that matter.
This is a world populated by fucking zombies. If you're concerned about them getting the drop on people, perhaps you should be watching Dancing with the Stars instead.
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Speaking of Andrea sucking, how far back can we go in the TV show and show her making really bad decisions? Obviously in this season she didn't listen to Michonne, who was straight-up telling her early on that the guvnah was fucked up, and that they should leave. Instead of leaving with her friend, to whome she owed her life several times over, she decides to jump in bed with guvnah nutball.
Michonne leaves, Andrea knows Woodbury peeps are sent to kill her. No big deal. Let's fuck.
Andrea finds the head aquariums and the daughter cage. No big deal. let's fuck.
Andrea knows there was an attack on the prison by the guvnah, resulting in deaths. Carol, her old friend, tells her she must kill him in bed to avoid a massacre. No big deal for Andrea... let's fuck.
Season, 2, she jumps on psychotic Shane's dick, in spite of her knowing Shane wants to usurp Rick's position, in part because Shane still wants Lori. No big deal for Andrea... let's fuck.
How far back can we go with Andrea's fuckups?
She didn't kill the guvnah in bed that night, even though she knew she had to. Everybody the guvnah/Woodbury kills from here on out is directly the fault of Andrea.
She needs to die in the rape chair.
Michonne leaves, Andrea knows Woodbury peeps are sent to kill her. No big deal. Let's fuck.
Andrea finds the head aquariums and the daughter cage. No big deal. let's fuck.
Andrea knows there was an attack on the prison by the guvnah, resulting in deaths. Carol, her old friend, tells her she must kill him in bed to avoid a massacre. No big deal for Andrea... let's fuck.
Season, 2, she jumps on psychotic Shane's dick, in spite of her knowing Shane wants to usurp Rick's position, in part because Shane still wants Lori. No big deal for Andrea... let's fuck.
How far back can we go with Andrea's fuckups?
She didn't kill the guvnah in bed that night, even though she knew she had to. Everybody the guvnah/Woodbury kills from here on out is directly the fault of Andrea.
She needs to die in the rape chair.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Oh gfy. It would have been a much better scene if the zombies HADN'T come out of nowhere. Have Andrea hiding from the truck, with the zombies slowly approaching her, and she has to keep out of sight... but the zombies are slowly getting closer... and the tension is building....Leisher wrote:Apparently, you've never seen a horror film...ever. Or an action movie for that matter.I dont think i am reaching at all, i think it is a valid criticism. She worked like hell to get away and then.... what? How did that happen? Almost as big a mistake as andrea hiding in the woods from the vehicle... she is alone... and suddenly, instantly, one zombie grabs her from behind and two more are five feet in front of her. I still like the show, but come on. They can try harder than that.
This is a world populated by fucking zombies. If you're concerned about them getting the drop on people, perhaps you should be watching Dancing with the Stars instead.
But nope. We got a Friday the 13th part 5-style teleporting menace that absolutely was not there 3 seconds ago. It doesn't matter how much you don't care about cheats like that, it still felt lazy to me.
Walking Dead isn't supposed to be a horror movie. It is supposed to be about regular people in a horrible situation. It doesn't need the lazy horror movie tropes to make the show work.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Oh gfy. It would have been a much better scene if the zombies HADN'T come out of nowhere. Have Andrea hiding from the truck, with the zombies slowly approaching her, and she has to keep out of sight... but the zombies are slowly getting closer... and the tension is building....
But nope. We got a Friday the 13th part 5-style teleporting menace that absolutely was not there 3 seconds ago.
No you gfy.
Because that NEVER happens in any other movies and TV shows except Friday the 13th Part 5, and certainly not in any of your favorites.
Walking Dead isn't supposed to be a horror movie. It is supposed to be about regular people in a horrible situation. It doesn't need the lazy horror movie tropes to make the show work.
It is a horror film, but the monsters are people. The zombies are nothing more than a plot device. How do you not get that? Thus, using them in certain moments to add the reminder that there's a greater evil that we, as humans, cannot work together to resolve is fine.
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No YOU are the one who will gfy.
I have contemplated for a long time that "The Walking Dead" referred to the survivors, not the zombies.
And no matter how much you say teleporting zombies is ok because it happens in other horror movies, it will never be ok for me in The Walking Dead. But, perhaps if you recommend to me that I should watch more dancing with the stars, you might change my mind, because that is a really persuasive argument.
Also, fuck Andrea. She sucks.
I have contemplated for a long time that "The Walking Dead" referred to the survivors, not the zombies.
And no matter how much you say teleporting zombies is ok because it happens in other horror movies, it will never be ok for me in The Walking Dead. But, perhaps if you recommend to me that I should watch more dancing with the stars, you might change my mind, because that is a really persuasive argument.
Also, fuck Andrea. She sucks.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Correction: I will not gfy because you will already be doing that.
It's right there on the back of the books I've lent you...
I'm saying you allow for all sorts of cheap plot devices in things you're more into. Here's a series you essentially got pressured into, and you're hunting for flaws.
The thing you're ignoring is the closeness of the camera. Go back and watch the episode again. You don't see wide shots of the forest. Thus, "teleporting" zombies is a vast jump from the "walks while you run yet is always a step behind you Jason".
Do they use the specific tactic you're implying, yes. I just think it's a lot less common than you believe.
Personally, I'm glad they aren't the sprinting zombies, which are beyond ridiculous.
I'm simply implying that perhaps that's more your speed.
I have contemplated for a long time that "The Walking Dead" referred to the survivors, not the zombies.
It's right there on the back of the books I've lent you...
And no matter how much you say teleporting zombies is ok because it happens in other horror movies, it will never be ok for me in The Walking Dead.
I'm saying you allow for all sorts of cheap plot devices in things you're more into. Here's a series you essentially got pressured into, and you're hunting for flaws.
The thing you're ignoring is the closeness of the camera. Go back and watch the episode again. You don't see wide shots of the forest. Thus, "teleporting" zombies is a vast jump from the "walks while you run yet is always a step behind you Jason".
Do they use the specific tactic you're implying, yes. I just think it's a lot less common than you believe.
Personally, I'm glad they aren't the sprinting zombies, which are beyond ridiculous.
But, perhaps if you recommend to me that I should watch more dancing with the stars, you might change my mind, because that is a really persuasive argument.
I'm simply implying that perhaps that's more your speed.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
The thing you're ignoring is the closeness of the camera. Go back and watch the episode again. You don't see wide shots of the forest. Thus, "teleporting" zombies is a vast jump from the "walks while you run yet is always a step behind you Jason".
One of the major points of stupidity I picked up from the episode I watched was that the zombies must be ninjas or the survivors must be selectively deaf or both.
I'm saying you allow for all sorts of cheap plot devices in things you're more into. Here's a series you essentially got pressured into, and you're hunting for flaws.
Yeah. Which is why, to this day, I still give A-Team reruns a free pass.
Personally, I'm glad they aren't the sprinting zombies, which are beyond ridiculous.
Fucking Danny Boyle. He should've just made like 2 or 3 flicks then retired.
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One of the major points of stupidity I picked up from the episode I watched was that the zombies must be ninjas or the survivors must be selectively deaf or both.
If I remember, this has been explained in the book. I don't think the zombies are vocal unless chasing or sensing something. Not sure.
Like I said, it's been used, but in the scene he described, I don't think it was as black and white as he thinks.
Yeah. Which is why, to this day, I still give A-Team reruns a free pass.
8 billion shots fired. 0 people hit.
Speaking of stupidity in entertainment...
Or how about the Lord of the Rings trilogy? Why didn't they just hop on the fucking eagles and ride them to Modor? The whole 93 hour long trilogy would become a 15 minute short film.
Fucking Danny Boyle. He should've just made like 2 or 3 flicks then retired.
That movie was so utterly bad just because of the superhuman zombies. Super fast, super strong, super aggressive, etc. Nobody would have a chance. It'd be the end of the human race almost immediately.
I like the idea of zombies moving faster due to momentum, but they shouldn't be making cuts like Barry Sanders (Gordo is googling him right now).
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I don't think the zombies are vocal unless chasing or sensing something.
Fuck vocal. A stiffened corpse shambling through branches and leaves is about as stealthy as a Sherman tank. Wouldn't they also need to spot/locate/sense a warm body before walking slowly towards it?
Why didn't they just hop on the fucking eagles and ride them to Modor?
Suppose air supremacy wasn't guaranteed.
That movie was so utterly bad just because of the superhuman zombies.
I still maintain the first half of that movie was good.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Fuck vocal. A stiffened corpse shambling through branches and leaves is about as stealthy as a Sherman tank. Wouldn't they also need to spot/locate/sense a warm body before walking slowly towards it?
Well, you didn't see the episode, so you wouldn't know, but she was making a ton of racket, and so was the car.
Also, in their credit, they do have their walking noises featured quite often.
Suppose air supremacy wasn't guaranteed.
It was though. Those eagles assfucked the bad guy's fliers. Plus, they could effectively hide the ring. Jump on a bird, fly over Mt. Doom, drop it in, call it a day.
I still maintain the first half of that movie was good.
Two different films, same point though.
The remake of Dawn of the Dead had the super human zombies too. 28 Days Later had them, but a LOT less gore.
I agree that the first half of 28DL was good, but then Boyle's ignorance showed its face.
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It was though. Those eagles assfucked the bad guy's fliers. Plus, they could effectively hide the ring. Jump on a bird, fly over Mt. Doom, drop it in, call it a day.
I figure it had something to do with not wanting to have that giant eye looking directly at the ring and/or ring-bearer. Maybe it could have shot down the eagles with a massive case of laser-eye if the ring were there to target, or something like that.
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