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I have often said there are two major events in most everyone's life where their IQ drops drastically:
1) going from unmarried to married
2) going from no children to children
1) going from unmarried to married
2) going from no children to children
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Well.
I saw a point made the other day that suggested things like this could be stopped by a volunteer with a $600 tool.
Makes me wonder why millions and billions are spent locking down federal buildings housing a bunch of bureaucrat accountants, but none of it is spent on school security.
All they had to change to prevent another 9/11 was make cockpit doors lockable, but look how far they went. And nothing to protect kids from crazed wackos.
I saw a point made the other day that suggested things like this could be stopped by a volunteer with a $600 tool.
Makes me wonder why millions and billions are spent locking down federal buildings housing a bunch of bureaucrat accountants, but none of it is spent on school security.
All they had to change to prevent another 9/11 was make cockpit doors lockable, but look how far they went. And nothing to protect kids from crazed wackos.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
All they had to change to prevent another 9/11 was make cockpit doors lockable...
No. They just needed something to strike the will of the passengers. If anyone even thinks of doing weird shit on a plane, the air marshal isn't the only one on him. They should've caught most of the perpetrators well beforehand, like flight school.
And nothing to protect kids from crazed wackos.
No way in hell I think armed guards in schools is the answer. Get ready to extend those same security standards to little league games, any school function off campus grounds, etc. Too much other bullshit.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
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thibodeaux
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TheCatt wrote:I know who I hope are the next shooting victims.
Pinsky said the potential lawsuit is not about money, but about principle and preventing future tragedies.
“My main concern here is to stop this from happening again and we’ve had a lot of mass murders in America,” he told ABCNews.com. “We’re trying to get school security upgraded in Connecticut and nationally.”
Naturally, the best way to do that is to get the State to pay your lawyer lots of money.
I disagree with everything you just said.Malcolm wrote:No. They just needed something to strike the will of the passengers. If anyone even thinks of doing weird shit on a plane, the air marshal isn't the only one on him. They should've caught most of the perpetrators well beforehand, like flight school.All they had to change to prevent another 9/11 was make cockpit doors lockable...
No way in hell I think armed guards in schools is the answer. Get ready to extend those same security standards to little league games, any school function off campus grounds, etc. Too much other bullshit.And nothing to protect kids from crazed wackos.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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thibodeaux
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The simplest, most effective thing "we" could do to make schools safer is to NOT make them "gun free zones." This is stupid and irritating in many ways:
1. I have a concealed carry permit. I also drop my kids off at school because it's on the way to work. Thus, I can't carry AT ALL, because then I'd be breaking the law by "bringing a gun onto campus." Stupid!
2. Have you ever heard of a mass shooting happening ANYWHERE besides a "gun free zone?" Anybody? According to John Lott: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”
This is damning. But will anybody listen? Hell no. "Guns in SCHOOLS? Are you CRAZY?"
Let me just ask you this: if you're in a school, and somebody starts shooting it up, are you going to say, "Thank GOD there's no concealed handguns allowed here!"
1. I have a concealed carry permit. I also drop my kids off at school because it's on the way to work. Thus, I can't carry AT ALL, because then I'd be breaking the law by "bringing a gun onto campus." Stupid!
2. Have you ever heard of a mass shooting happening ANYWHERE besides a "gun free zone?" Anybody? According to John Lott: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”
This is damning. But will anybody listen? Hell no. "Guns in SCHOOLS? Are you CRAZY?"
Let me just ask you this: if you're in a school, and somebody starts shooting it up, are you going to say, "Thank GOD there's no concealed handguns allowed here!"
Another one.
And it's says it happens about once per week?! Why have they kept this information from the public? And that's just in New York. There are killer subs all around the world. Something MUST be done about them. Do we have to wait for a child to die before we do something?
And it's says it happens about once per week?! Why have they kept this information from the public? And that's just in New York. There are killer subs all around the world. Something MUST be done about them. Do we have to wait for a child to die before we do something?
We need bigger signs. Obviously the shooters never saw the signs that said no guns were allowed there.thibodeaux wrote:The simplest, most effective thing "we" could do to make schools safer is to NOT make them "gun free zones." This is stupid and irritating in many ways:
1. I have a concealed carry permit. I also drop my kids off at school because it's on the way to work. Thus, I can't carry AT ALL, because then I'd be breaking the law by "bringing a gun onto campus." Stupid!
2. Have you ever heard of a mass shooting happening ANYWHERE besides a "gun free zone?" Anybody? According to John Lott: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”
This is damning. But will anybody listen? Hell no. "Guns in SCHOOLS? Are you CRAZY?"
Let me just ask you this: if you're in a school, and somebody starts shooting it up, are you going to say, "Thank GOD there's no concealed handguns allowed here!"
Lawyer withdraws case, but...
The lawyer who filed and then quickly withdrew a $100 million legal claim against the state of Connecticut in the wake of the deadly Newtown elementary school shooting said on Wednesday his motive in the case is to prevent future school massacres and that he continues to investigate evidence for a future claim.
New Haven, Connecticut-based attorney Irving Pinsky, appearing on CNN, said his job is "to stop this happening again."
"It hurts me, but I know it's coming," Pinsky said, referring to the likelihood of a future attack on a school.
Pinsky, hired by the family of an unidentified six-year-old girl who survived the attack, said 20-year-old Adam Lanza's assault was a foreseeable event and officials failed to prevent it. Lanza's Dec. 14 massacre left 20 first graders and six staff members dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, the second deadliest school shooting in U.S. history.
"It had to be assumed that this was going to happen somewhere, sometime," Pinsky said.
When pressed with indications that Sandy Hook Principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the attack, had recently increased security measures, which appears to have forced Lanza to shoot his way through the main doors to gain entry to the school, Pinsky replied the entrance was supposed to be constructed of bulletproof glass.
Last week, Pinsky had filed notice with the state that he was seeking permission to sue the State of Connecticut Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner for what he claims were lapses that allowed the attack to occur.
On Monday Pinsky dropped his claim, but said on CNN he has a year to refile it and he is actively collecting evidence in that effort, echoing comments he made to Reuters on Tuesday.
He added that the state is not the only target of his investigation.
"We're not only going after the State of Connecticut," Pinsky said, without elaborating.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Pinsky, hired by the family of an unidentified six-year-old girl who survived the attack, said 20-year-old Adam Lanza's assault was a foreseeable event and officials failed to prevent it.
This belief alone should be grounds for disbarment and is indicative of insanity.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Nearby town to collect and destroy "violent video games".
Yeah, ample evidence if you think emotion, speculation, and the opinions of people with zero information or education on the subject equals fact.
Science says you're full of shit. Here's PC Gamer's investigation into the studies cited by the MSM after Sandy Hook.
If that's too many words for you, here's something that might make you understand a little better:
Their statement explains, “SouthingtonSOS is saying is that there is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and Movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety and is desensitizing our children to acts of violence including bullying.”
Yeah, ample evidence if you think emotion, speculation, and the opinions of people with zero information or education on the subject equals fact.
Science says you're full of shit. Here's PC Gamer's investigation into the studies cited by the MSM after Sandy Hook.
If that's too many words for you, here's something that might make you understand a little better:
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Ed Brubaker:
Glad to see we're back to blaming gun violence on movies. Thank god movies are only shown in America or this theory would be full of shit.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
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thibodeaux
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Some people are saying this is a false flag operation (presumably by Obama/The Left in order to grab guns). For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE
Others cite various inconsistencies in the media reports (first 2nd shooter, now no 2nd shooter; Lanza had no AR, now had AR, etc). THAT kind of stuff I can credit as journalists being lazy and inept, as well as general fog-of-war type confusion.
So do I believe it's a false flag? Dunno. But it's an awfully CONVENIENT event for the gun grabbers. If a guy shooting up a theater didn't get them what they wanted, maybe shooting up a kindergarten will. God knows there was way more "Something Must Be Done!" crap on facebook this time.
Others cite various inconsistencies in the media reports (first 2nd shooter, now no 2nd shooter; Lanza had no AR, now had AR, etc). THAT kind of stuff I can credit as journalists being lazy and inept, as well as general fog-of-war type confusion.
So do I believe it's a false flag? Dunno. But it's an awfully CONVENIENT event for the gun grabbers. If a guy shooting up a theater didn't get them what they wanted, maybe shooting up a kindergarten will. God knows there was way more "Something Must Be Done!" crap on facebook this time.
...inconsistencies in the media reports...
That's just because there are no more journalists. There's just televised gawkers with nice hair. Reporters these days are less qualified than your typical gossiping grandmother to be relied on for factual information.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
These folk, while I kind of get their grief, are the poster children for "Why emotional pleas should not translate into political policy."
You are delusional. This is not a Lifetime movie about you and your family.
"We have a responsibility to make something happen," Bittman said. "We want Newtown to be remembered for change. We refuse to be remembered only for our loss. We want the shooting to be remembered as a turning point."
You are delusional. This is not a Lifetime movie about you and your family.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."