Avatar

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:41 pm

Teaser trailer.

Not really worth watching.

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Post by **TPRJones** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:45 pm

Ooookay .... that was just about the most pointless trailer I've ever seen.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:46 pm

Here a real trailer. I'm almost thinking the last one was somebody's joke.

http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=avatar

plot outlisne:

The story's protagonist, Jake Sully, is a former Marine who was wounded and paralyzed from the waist down in combat on Earth. In order to participate in the Avatar program, which will give him a healthy body, Jake agrees to travel to Pandora, a lush rainforest environment filled with incredible life forms - some beautiful, many terrifying. Pandora is also the home to the Na'vi, a humanoid race that lives at what humans would consider to be a primitive level, but are actually much more evolutionarily advanced than humans. Ten feet tall, with tails and sparkling blue skin, the Na'vi live harmoniously within their unspoiled world. But as humans encroach on Pandora in search of valuable minerals, the Na'vi's very existence is threatened â" and their warrior abilities unleashed.

Jake has unwittingly been recruited to become part of this encroachment. Since humans are unable to breathe the air on Pandora, they have created genetically-bred human-Na'vi hybrids known as Avatars. The Avatars are living, breathing bodies in the real world, controlled by a human driver through a technology that links the driver's mind to the Avatar body. On Pandora, through his Avatar body, Jake can be whole once again. Moreover, he falls in love with a young Na'vi woman, Neytiri, whose beauty is matched by her ferocity in battle.

As Jake slides deeper into becoming one of her clan, he finds himself caught between the military-industrial forces of Earth, and the Na'vi - forcing him to choose sides in an epic battle that will decide the fate of an entire world.

I dunno. I think I;d like to see more unapologetic, ass-kicking space Marines like in ALIENS than the conflicted ones they are describing here.

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Post by **Leisher** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:33 pm

So he's a marine in the Na'vi?

Cute.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:21 pm

Post by **TPRJones** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:41 pm

Huh. This whole time I didn't know Avatar and Avatar: The Last Airbender were two different things. That trailer confused the crap out of me. And that's also why I thought the first one was totally useless, since Avatar: The Last Airbender has nothing to do with earth at all (at least I don't think it does).

Now things make more sense.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:01 am

So what exactly was so ground breaking about that trailer? I don't know what I expected but this film is suppose to change the way people make movies and all I saw were some scenes that looked like they came from alien or matrix with the exoskeletons and some others that look like a cut scene from a final fantasy game.

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Post by **GORDON** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:47 pm

This new trailer seems slightly less gay. But still a little gay.

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Post by **Troy** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:55 pm

Saw a lot of commercials for this and Dragon Age: Origins during football games at the bar yesterday.

They made both things look pretty cool.

Whatever Avatar trailer they were using is 100x better than the other one they were showing around earlier.

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:10 pm

Avatar just looked like a big political statement to me.

Here's the jist of the story from the trailer:
The evil humans (funny how they looked like the U.S. military) want a planet, and instead of talking to and working with the natives, they want to commit genocide.

Meanwhile, a human who lost use of his legs is transformed into one of the natives to spy on them. However, he falls in love with one and ends up helping defend the natives against the evil humans. (Ok, that part wasn't spelled out in the trailer, but c'mon, we all know that's the story.)

Looks dumb.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:20 pm

But it's James Cameron. Shit, he could push a video of his own colonoscopy & get it to open for $100 on the first weekend.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:22 pm

Leisher wrote:Avatar just looked like a big political statement to me.

Here's the jist of the story from the trailer:
The evil humans (funny how they looked like the U.S. military) want a planet, and instead of talking to and working with the natives, they want to commit genocide.

Meanwhile, a human who lost use of his legs is transformed into one of the natives to spy on them. However, he falls in love with one and ends up helping defend the natives against the evil humans. (Ok, that part wasn't spelled out in the trailer, but c'mon, we all know that's the story.)

Looks dumb.

Specifically, it looked like US Marines were being sent in to secure a valuable resource *cough*oil*cough*.

Post by **TPRJones** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:03 pm

Yeah. If it weren't for the bullshit storyline, this might be a decent flick.

Post by **TheCatt** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:01 pm

Leisher wrote:Here's the gist of the story from the trailer:
The evil humans (funny how they looked like the U.S. military) want a planet, and instead of talking to and working with the natives, they want to commit genocide.

They are specifically Marines, iirc.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:33 pm

So we're going to get an allegory for the native Americans in the 1800's, the Spanish American War, and Gulf War 2. Sweet.

Post by **GORDON** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:18 am

Apparently, it's as lefty as everyone suspected:

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolt....c-cover

Absent from the big screen for over a decade now, Oscar-winning director James Cameron returns armed with a reported half-billion dollars, a story he’s been desperate to tell for 15 years, and the very latest in cutting-edge visual technology. The result is “Avatar,” a sanctimonious thud of a movie so infested with one-dimensional characters and PC clichés that not a single plot turn – small or large – surprises. I call it the “liberal tell,” where the early and obvious politics of the film gives away the entire story before the second act begins, and “Avatar” might be the sorriest example of this yet. For all the time and money and technology that went into its making, the thing that matters most – character and story – are strictly Afterschool Special. What a crushing disappointment from one of our most original and imaginative filmmakers.

Set in 2154, “Avatar” is a thinly disguised, heavy-handed and simplistic sci-fi fantasy/allegory critical of America from our founding straight through to the Iraq War.

I don't know about the back story, but the main story seems to be there is a precious mineral on a planet, right under a village of indigenous peoples, and the earth military comes in to move those people, and are the bad guys.

I thought conservatives were the ones strongly in favor of private property rights, and it was the lefties in favor of removing private property rights when it served the so-called greater good?

Post by **thibodeaux** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:43 am

Clearly there must be CORPORATION involved. That makes it bad.

Post by **GORDON** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:49 am

Isn't there always a corporation involved? If private property is seized to build a highway, a corporation is going to build it. If farmland is seized to provide wetlands for some swamp fish, some corporation with bulldozers is going to be hired to return the land to its original condition. And the only way an elected official is going to risk losing a huge part of its voting bloc is because some so-called environmental group is paying a shitload of money into their reelection fund. Isn't money ALWAYS involved?

Post by **Vince** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:55 am

As soon as I saw the "evil greedy humans" angle I realized that it wasn't something I wanted to see.

As bad as Knowing was, I found it refreshing to see a film where earth was facing some really bad mojo that had nothing to do with our causing it.

Post by **GORDON** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:56 am

That was one of the few good things to say about the movie 2012. The earth's crust cracking was not due to failed republican policies.