GoT - Leisher's viewing

Post by **TPRJones** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:19 pm

The Stark lads, the wild chick, and Mordor (or whatever)...

Hodor.

If you keep watching you will come to remember this name.

I think the thing i had in mind ends S3.

That seems very likely. There's a whole lot more going on around the end of season 3 than there is at the end of season 2.

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:14 pm

TPRJones wrote: If you keep watching you will come to remember this name.

I'm going to try and catch up with you guys for season 7.

Just for your entertainment, here's speculation from a guy 4 seasons behind you:
-A list of people I suspect are going to die: Hound, Braun, Tywin, Robb, Jon, Kat, Kat's big bodyguard, scumbag pimp, Joffrey, Theon, Sansa, The mountain, everyone in Qarth not with Khaleesi, Stanis' fire witch, and Tyrion's lover.
-If I was guessing the hero of this story, it would have to be: The Starks (mainly the cripple and Anya), Khaleesi, and Tyrion.
-I also think those are the only real "untouchables" right now. Anyone else dying wouldn't shock me.
-I think the "real" threat is in the north, but I don't know if it's this army that's supposedly up there or whatever monsters lurk there.
-I've got my eye on the queen since this latest episode. She's far, far more evil than she has previously been shown.

Post by **TPRJones** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:43 pm

You know that feeling you get sometimes when you wish you could watch something you've seen before as if it were the first time again?

I just got that feeling so hard.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:48 pm

TPRJones wrote: You know that feeling you get sometimes when you wish you could watch something you've seen before as if it were the first time again?

No.

Post by **TPRJones** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:57 pm

Malcolm wrote:
TPRJones wrote: You know that feeling you get sometimes when you wish you could watch something you've seen before as if it were the first time again?
No.

Well, of course you don't. It's an emotion. Sometimes humans experience instinctive or intuitive feelings, as distinguished from reasoning or knowledge. But of course your kind is immune to that sort of whimsy.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:58 pm

I experience plenty of emotion. And wtf is whimsy?

Post by **TPRJones** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:59 pm

Exactly.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:01 pm

TPRJones wrote: You know that feeling you get sometimes when you wish you could watch something you've seen before as if it were the first time again?

I just got that feeling so hard.

Ditto

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:06 pm

We didn't hear from the gay king's lover and widow this last episode. Or did we? Did the gay lover (also a great knight) show up with Tywin to save King's Landing? That would make complete sense considering they wanted revenge on Stannis.

Yep, it was him.

So I missed something. Who burned Winterfell and killed everyone? The Iron people? The army who came to save it? Was it the guy blowing the horn?

And I guess they should have saved that Wildfire for up north...

S3 starts Saturday. I'm off on an emergency trip to St. Louis tomorrow.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:22 pm

Things you never hear: "We need to get to St. Louis, STAT!"

Post by **TPRJones** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:24 pm

I'm not entirely sure you are supposed to know yet who burned Winterfell, but if so it's a very minor spoiler.

It was Ramsay and his Bolton soldiers.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:12 pm

GORDON wrote: Things you never hear: "We need to get to St. Louis, STAT!"

Seconded.

Post by **Leisher** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:15 am

GORDON wrote: Things you never hear: "We need to get to St. Louis, STAT!"

And yet...

Post by **Leisher** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:55 pm

S3E9 is the one I think you wanted me to see. You would have been disappointed by my reaction.

I saw it coming from a mile away. Everything was too perfect and that king is WAY too scummy. One thing they've done well is casting, but it also gives away people's actions at times. I knew that dude would betray them, and I knew something was up with the other guy when he said, "You lost this way when you married her."

I didn't gasp or get pissed or anything, but it was definitely hard to watch. Not for the gore, but because you knew good people were dying. I felt worse for the wolf.

Still, while the Lanisters are feeling safe, I know they're ultimately doomed. I mean, I'm sure they stick around for a bit, but there's an army in the North, undead in the North, Stannis, internal dissent, and Khaleesi.

Now that most of the good guys are dead, broken, lost, without allies, etc. I expect the tide will begin to turn. Unless I'm watching a show where just the baddies win, in which case, this is The Last Man on Earth with more killing.

So my question is who will be doing it? Who will turn the tide? Will the evil eat themselves or will the last good folks finally win some battles?

How's Littlefinger going to act when he finds out the Lanisters killed his love?
Which child will finally kill Tywin?
When will Sansa lose her shit and murder the fuck out of Joffrey?
Is Jamie undergoing a faceturn? (Going from bad to good.)
How far down the rabbit hole is Sersei going to fall?
Theon is clearly paying his penance...more so than anyone...but when's he snap out of it?
Stannis, I assume, will die by the sword...(you know, the black magic).

But most importantly, what in the holy hell did Tyrion's squire do to those women? Outside the joke, I'm curious if he had mind control of some sort. A scene in the next episode showed the Tyrel grandmother agree to pay for half the wedding the minute he walked up to the table. Wild observation, I'm sure.

Post by **Leisher** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:40 pm

And Joffrey's dead in the most anti-climatic way possible. Worst payoff ever.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:56 pm

Leisher wrote: Worst payoff ever.

That's what she said.

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:05 am

Also, did they recast the sell sword who killed the other two and helped liberate the slaver city for Khaleesi?

I want to say it's a completely different guy from S3 to S4.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:45 am

Yes it is. A new actor, I mean.

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:08 am

Who killed Joffrey?

The suspects, imho:
1. Tywin - He knew his grandson was an ignorant twat and Tywin's proven he'll do anything to keep the throne and the Lanister name. Plus, he sure did know a lot about poisoning. It'll be interesting to see if he tries to kill Tyrion through the trial.
2. Littlefinger - This is my primary suspect. I mean, how convenient that he's docked offshore when this all takes place and has that jester walk Sansa out when it happens. His motivation is Kat's murder.
3. Sercei(sp?) - Yeah, I know, she's his mom, but she was losing her grip on power. She lost power when Tyrion come back as the Hand. She lost more power when her dad returned. Now she had a hottie taking her title of queen. Plus, she was being married off to the Tyrell's.
4. Joffrey wasn't the target. Didn't Tyrion grab the closest cup to him, which didn't happen to be from Joffrey's table? He also filled it from the closest wine jug. Also, there was a weird shot of the cake after he cut it.

I hope this leads to something interesting besides a kangaroo court.

Also, now my money is on Sercei killing Tywin.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:52 pm

Loving this.