Fox had no idea two of their movies were using the same character.
And that's the difference between Fox and Marvel.
Logan
Logan
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Logan
Finally saw Logan yesterday. It seemed like the universe was going out of its way to block me from seeing a highly praised solo movie featuring a character I grew up following. I should have listened to the universe...
I'll keep this short because my criticisms will involve spoilers, and I don't want to ruin the movie for anyone. (I'm going to create a spoiler thread.)
The direction produced amazing visuals and brilliant performances. I cannot say enough about how good the acting is in this film or how beautifully this film was shot. There are also some really fluid moments of emotion and humor without being jarring or forced.
However, the story is terrible. It showcases a complete lack of understanding of the characters involved or even a general knowledge of what they're about, and worse, a total lack of attention to detail. It's also very cliche in several areas, and doesn't even follow its own rules.
I think Hugh Jackman's time as Wolverine was spent working in movies where nobody understood the character. I think he knows it too, which is why he said he's done...UNLESS...it's an MCU movie.
And I'll admit to being biased. Growing up this was my favorite character. I was a Wolverine fan before he became a mainstream character. I know his backstory, his powers, his relationships to other characters, etc. FAR better than probably 90% of the people seeing this movie or even 99% of the people who made the movie.
It's an amazingly acted, beautiful film whose plot suffers from a lack of knowledge of the source material and a lackadaisical attitude about details. I'd still recommend it, but it does not deserve the 92% on Rotten Tomatoes. I'd put it into the 60s.
I'll keep this short because my criticisms will involve spoilers, and I don't want to ruin the movie for anyone. (I'm going to create a spoiler thread.)
The direction produced amazing visuals and brilliant performances. I cannot say enough about how good the acting is in this film or how beautifully this film was shot. There are also some really fluid moments of emotion and humor without being jarring or forced.
However, the story is terrible. It showcases a complete lack of understanding of the characters involved or even a general knowledge of what they're about, and worse, a total lack of attention to detail. It's also very cliche in several areas, and doesn't even follow its own rules.
I think Hugh Jackman's time as Wolverine was spent working in movies where nobody understood the character. I think he knows it too, which is why he said he's done...UNLESS...it's an MCU movie.
And I'll admit to being biased. Growing up this was my favorite character. I was a Wolverine fan before he became a mainstream character. I know his backstory, his powers, his relationships to other characters, etc. FAR better than probably 90% of the people seeing this movie or even 99% of the people who made the movie.
It's an amazingly acted, beautiful film whose plot suffers from a lack of knowledge of the source material and a lackadaisical attitude about details. I'd still recommend it, but it does not deserve the 92% on Rotten Tomatoes. I'd put it into the 60s.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Logan
In the 60s means you rank it as being much better than X-Men Origins - Wolverine, and almost but not quite as good as The Wolverine. Is that your intention?
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Logan
I did not intend that, but it might be pretty accurate.
Everything is much better than X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
I wasn't as disappointed walking out of The Wolverine as I was walking out of Logan, but the acting and violence are better in Logan. Lots of cursing for no real reason though, and instead of cute it was somewhat jarring. Hearing Wolvie curse like a sailor was fine, but Xavier? It didn't fit.
Everything is much better than X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
I wasn't as disappointed walking out of The Wolverine as I was walking out of Logan, but the acting and violence are better in Logan. Lots of cursing for no real reason though, and instead of cute it was somewhat jarring. Hearing Wolvie curse like a sailor was fine, but Xavier? It didn't fit.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Logan
Watched this last night with the wife. Never read the "Old Man Logan" series (or whatever it was called), so I don't know how well it followed that. It it was probably one of the better movies of a Marvel character overall. Almost said a better Marvel comic movie overall, but changed it. For the uber comic nerds, it was probably not as good. Though I consider myself pretty nerdy on the comic scale, this was just a good movie.
I found it much more impactful than most movies of this genre. I cared more about the characters than I usually do in a comic movie. It was just a really good drama and less of the action adventure that most of these tend to be.
Went to bed thinking about it, and it popped into my head when I first woke up. It's one of those movies that niggles at your brain for a while after seeing it.
I found it much more impactful than most movies of this genre. I cared more about the characters than I usually do in a comic movie. It was just a really good drama and less of the action adventure that most of these tend to be.
Went to bed thinking about it, and it popped into my head when I first woke up. It's one of those movies that niggles at your brain for a while after seeing it.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Logan
Having had one grandparent that suffered a traumatic brain injury and another that suffered early onset Alzheimer's dementia, that was actually pretty in keeping to the story. Though I don't think they specifically said it was Alzheimer's, that was the impression they gave. I think they said, "brain disease" or similar. Either way, it was jarring, but also pretty typical of real life with such a condition.Leisher wrote:Hearing Wolvie curse like a sailor was fine, but Xavier? It didn't fit.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren