Jason Bourne

[Leisher]

Rumor: Damon looks to be returning.

[Leisher]

Damon and Tommy Lee Jones

[Malcolm]

The Bourne Fugitive?

[Alhazad]

The Bourne Loser.

[Leisher]

Well, after the last couple I didn't have much faith going in, but this was surprisingly good.

This was a very well done reboot of the series. I think? Honestly, I haven't seen the original in years, but they seemed to tie the plot here to Bourne's origin.

I don't want to give anything away, so I've got nothing else to say about the story. It was good.

[TheCatt]

I was entertained, and it certainly seemed better than the crappy rviews.

[GORDON]

It's a reboot with the same actor?

[TheCatt]

It's a reboot with the same actor?

Yes? It's not really a reboot, though, it's a continuation of the prior plot. The 4th film was a kind of reboot, with Jeremy Renner instead of Damon, iirc.

[GORDON]

Oh.

It isn't a "reboot" unless they are saying, "Ok, the previous shit didn't happen, here's our version of it."

In my opinion.

I don't even consider JJTrek to be a reboot.

[Leisher]

It isn't a "reboot" unless they are saying, "Ok, the previous shit didn't happen, here's our version of it."

In my opinion.

I don't even consider JJTrek to be a reboot.

We need to break down what things mean.

Remake, reimagining, reboot, etc.

This movie continues a previous plot line, but sets up a new jumping off point. It ends all previous plot threads so any new entry is fresh. What would that be called?

And JJ's Trek I'd consider reboot (and a reimagining?). NOT a remake though because they acknowledge the previous entry and even tie it into the plot.

[GORDON]

I think they are called sequels. Just because a new plot line starts it doesn't mean it is anything but the next movie in the series, chronologically. I don't consider JJ Trek anything more than that, because they put old Spock right in there central to the storyline, and said, "Shit we've changed the past, welp here's the new timeline." Nothing in the first 12 movies (or whatever) didn't happen, time travel fuckery just made a new timeline.

"Reboot" sounds like a clean slate with new people with the same names and the previous shit didn't happen in this new universe.

"Reimagining" sounds like another word for reboot. "Remake..." not sure. Ambiguous. I could remake Star Trek 2 with new characters and updated CGI, scene for scene, and it would not necessarily invalidate 1 or 3.... unless I said it did? I don't know.

But I think "reboot" as a term is used too liberally for situations in which it does not apply.

Cue malcolm: "language and meanings of words change over time, get over it old man"

[Malcolm]

Sequels are hard to define. Some sequels ignore previous ones (such as the original Halloween franchise).

Reboots imply tossing away the past entirely.

Reimagining ... that could be anything, like the bullshit Leo and Kate version of Romeo and Juliet or 10 Things I Hate About You, just to pull out a couple Shakespeare ripoffs.

Cue malcolm: "language and meanings of words change over time, get over it old man"

Do you frequently use "thee" or "thou" in conversation? Only fanboys at comic cosplay conventions do that shit. So yes, they do.

[GORDON]

I used both of those words smoothly in a sentence exactly two days ago, and it was appropriate to the situation.

Clarification: not a renfair.

[Malcolm]

I used both of those words smoothly in a sentence exactly two days ago, and it was appropriate to the situation.

Clarification: not a renfair.

Did you time travel back to the 17th century, because otherwise I can't think of a need to do so. Are you an understudy at the local community theatre?

[GORDON]

Close. We were at the museum and they are currently featuring Shakespeare related art, and they were having a show in the peristyle that the kid and I stumbled upon, and everyone seemed suitably impressed that I could bust out some iambic pentameter on the fly.