Pictured: Trump's campaign...Donald Trump continued to say on Thursday that he has seen video footage taken by the Iranian government that shows the United States delivering $400 million in cash in January, even though his spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday night that the Republican nominee had instead seen footage of three released American prisoners arriving in Switzerland.
I don't disagree with that, but you're missing the point of those votes. Even if you think the two party system is bullshit, I believe it's still possible to vote for the party rather than the douche or turd sandwich.I think I've been on record before in saying that anyone who votes for either major prez candidate this election has bought into the "there are only two choices" lie.
The jokes write themselves.Anger and frustration do not give you carte blanche to act like a petulant five-year old.
That's making dumb assumptions. Just because someone doesn't shoot their mouth off doesn't mean they have a higher IQ than someone who does.Because she generally says less and doesn't go off on twitter rants at the drop of a hat.
No, fuck you. You sit here and bitch non-stop about everything wrong with the government as you see it, and then proudly announce how you're not going to vote. So are you writing letters to politicians? Writing editorials for media outlets? Forming protest groups? Organizing a coup? Running for office yourself? No, you're doing nothing. All I'm saying is that at the very least you could vote Johnson and while your one vote will not win him the election it is another vote against the current system you hate so much. Imagine if all the people angry and frustrated with the system actually got off their asses and voted for a third party candidate this election. All those meaningless single votes would actually mean something when grouped together.No, fuck you. Give me better choices with a realistic shot at winning. I have a better chance getting accidentally injured or killed on my way to the polls than my vote does of mattering one fucking bit. When someone has a gun to my head and marches me to a ballot, I might pick someone depending how contrary I'm feeling at the time. And don't try to spin not voting into a disrespecting the dead bullshit guilt trip. They died for my right to get saddled with Fucktard A or Fucktard B in a corrupt, badly run, extremist political system that's slowly suffocating itself under its own bloat? I'm not even showing up to the tailgating outside the arena for that game, let alone participating.
Technically, you're wrong. I'm insisting you should vote, yes, but I'm not forcing you to vote. There's a MASSIVE difference. And being apathetic doesn't mean sitting on the internet all day whining about the candidates and election when you're not going to vote.Technically they also died for my right NOT to vote and by insisting I have to vote you are disrespecting their memory. Freedom includes the freedom to be apathetic.
That is the biggest understatement ever.This is the worst election ever.
My vote has no effect on who gets in the next election or debate and so no effect on the number of parties "out there."You say yourself that the two party system is a lie, so prove it with your vote.
No, but they seem a shitload more sane.Just because someone doesn't shoot their mouth off doesn't mean they have a higher IQ than someone who does.
Letters? No. Politicians don't read those, they read polls and the "from" tag on the bags of cash lobbyists leave outside their office.So are you writing letters to politicians? Writing editorials for media outlets? Forming protest groups? Organizing a coup? Running for office yourself? No, you're doing nothing.
No, it doesn't mean they have a higher IQ, but it does mean they are wiser. It could be the wisdom not to mouth off on social media, or it could be the wisdom to listen to the handlers that are telling them not to mouth off on social media. Either way; wiser.Just because someone doesn't shoot their mouth off doesn't mean they have a higher IQ than someone who does.
I completely disagree, and previous elections back that up.My vote has no effect on who gets in the next election or debate and so no effect on the number of parties "out there."
No, but they seem a shitload more sane.
No argument on that nor am I implying one is better than the other, but let's say you throw a house party. Donald Trump shows up because he was invited even though you figured he wouldn't show. At first he's cracking some jokes and saying outrageous things and people are into it. They think he's harmless and just letting off some steam. However, instead of scaling back or even staying level, he ramps up his sideshow and becomes a distraction that nobody in the party can ignore. He's not hurting anyone, but he is offending half the party. The half that isn't offended is still embarrassed by him, but "it's a free country".No, it doesn't mean they have a higher IQ, but it does mean they are wiser. It could be the wisdom not to mouth off on social media, or it could be the wisdom to listen to the handlers that are telling them not to mouth off on social media. Either way; wiser.
Become a politician and change that trend.Letters? No. Politicians don't read those, they read polls and the "from" tag on the bags of cash lobbyists leave outside their office.
One man can make a difference.You're encouraging me to work for the media, people you've described as biased and incompetent?
You're preaching to the converted.I am a protest group. Of one. Every fucking day.
What nation isn't filled with morons?A coup? Hah. I'd be in charge of a nation of morons even if I won.
Local elections don't cost much time or money. That's why teens win them from time to time.Running for office? No, I'm not independently wealthy nor enough of a tool to beg for donations year round.
That's a terrible plan. What you're essentially doing is going into a restaurant and not ordering off the menu. Instead you let the cook pick for you, he burns the shit to a crisp, and then you pay and walk out with eating or calling over a manager to complain. You are a man standing in a house on fire and instead of acting, your logic is to stand there and let it handle itself. To be fair, it will, just not in a positive way for you.I'll participate in the system when the system isn't a fucking joke. Until then, my choice is fuck it, at least I'm not contributing to the problem by playing a rigged game and being proud and grateful while doing so.
No thanks. I like being able to look in the mirror and not want to kill myself.Become a politician and change that trend.
Not in DC unless he's the new messiah of kickbacks.One man can make a difference.
No, it doesn't. The only parties I'd consider voting for at the moment aren't getting national stage or TV time.Look, your single vote might not "mean anything", but as I stated, when added up with other people and their "meaningless" single vote it DOES make a difference.
Woohoo, mayor of West Central Middle of Nowhere, Wyoming.Local elections don't cost much time or money. That's why teens win them from time to time.
No, I'm not even walking into the fucking building.What you're essentially doing is going into a restaurant and not ordering off the menu.
If he magically breaks the 15% barrier, perhaps. I'd also bet the pollsters get financial incentive to keep him under that number.All I'm saying is that you should consider a vote for Johnson this fall ... Every single vote that guy gets is another middle finger to the Dems and Repubs.
Nice in theory, but in many areas that's just not an option. Most places there will be three names (Trump, Clinton, and Johnson) and that's it, you have to pick one of those or just not vote. Some places will also have Stein. Very few will let you write in other names.Even if ALL the candidates suck, write in a name.
I'm not sure how you do that now.No thanks. I like being able to look in the mirror and not want to kill myself.
You're right. When a bunch of people vote for the same thing, it means nothing.No, it doesn't.
To be fair, he or she is actively doing more than you.Woohoo, mayor of West Central Middle of Nowhere, Wyoming.
I didn't realize you weren't a citizen. My bad.No, I'm not even walking into the fucking building.
I think that's the one thing I want to see happen more than anything else. However, I fear if it did happen and he was invited to the debates he'd be overshadowed by the circus between the two dumb fucks.If he magically breaks the 15% barrier, perhaps.
Actually, 43 will.Very few will let you write in other names.
Not the most improbable plan. In fact, it could be a brilliant political maneuver if Trump wins for the Republicans to immediately tie his political beliefs to Dems, then find an excuse to start impeachment proceedings.Personally I'm voting Trump and then hoping for a quick assassination or impeachment
It means they bought into some platitudes. Beyond that, nothing.When a bunch of people vote for the same thing, it means nothing.
I've thought about this for a long, long time. The candidates can start the debate together on stage, but when questions start coming, everyone gets their own mic'd, relatively soundproof booth complete with cameras and a timer display inside and out.I fear if it did happen and he was invited to the debates he'd be overshadowed by the circus between the two dumb fucks.
First off, an "average" of five polls? Wtf is that? Pick a number, dickweeds. Also gee, I wonder which polls the CPD will pick -- the ones that have Gary polling the highest or the lowest. Until the system wants to talk about negotiating on that and several other key items, fuck it.So far, while Johnson’s support is higher than in past years, an 8.4 percent average is still a distance from the 15 percent he’d need to make the debates.
And he would need to get there by Aug. 15 to qualify, hitting 15 percent in not just one poll but an average of five recent polls chosen by the Commission on Presidential Debates.
I agree. I know KY doesn't allow write in votes. I WILL vote, just not for President. I think this mindset that we MUST vote for one of the crap options presented to us only assures that we continue to get crap options.TPRJones wrote:Nice in theory, but in many areas that's just not an option. Most places there will be three names (Trump, Clinton, and Johnson) and that's it, you have to pick one of those or just not vote. Some places will also have Stein. Very few will let you write in other names.Even if ALL the candidates suck, write in a name.
If you refuse to vote for Trump or Clinton and you don't want to vote for Johnson and there are literally no other options then what do you do? Don't vote. And don't feel bad about it; the system is so broken that not voting is a very valid choice. Because any election that does not have a "none of the above" option of some sort CANNOT be democratic by it's very nature and refusing to participate in a non-democratic election is a valid choice.
Personally I'm voting Trump and then hoping for a quick assassination or impeachment. Although that does leave the problem that Mike Pence is not better.
Nah. Drumpf's no stranger to cutting and running when his ass is getting kicked in badly enough, usually while trying to shift the blame to others.... but would this shock anyone?
Well, their party did just get jacked by Lex Luthor's less charismatic Cheeto-looking cousin.Also, isn't this a great example of the MSM's bias? This guy, literally, wrote an article where he got to call all Republicans losers.
"She took a short-circuit in the brain. She's got problems," Trump said, seizing on Clinton's explanation that she "short-circuited" a recent answer about her truthfulness in discussing her email server.
"Honestly, I don't think she's all there," he added.
The attacks flowed from the Republican nominee as he once again tore into Clinton as "unstable," "unbalanced" and "totally unhinged."
That's why I stated that one of them will be rated best fast food restaurant in town regardless. The whole, "If you don't vote it's a vote for the other guy" argument is such horse shit. It's the two party system saying they own you and your vote. Just because I hate the other party's nominee doesn't mean you deserve my vote. Earn it. "I'm going to be less shitty than their guy" is not exactly motivating me to tak the time to go vote. Especially when you're pretty much offering me 95% of what they are.GORDON wrote:But in this case, McD's or BK will still win even if everyone stays home.