Hillary 2016

[TheCatt]

Challenge ac.... um.... no. But I can use that image to last longer now.

[GORDON]

Clinton's hacker extradicted to the U.S., but why?

A dollar says he ends up dead.

You could have made that $100 and felt safe about your bet.

After all, he's in his twenties and if he lives to old age, you'll be long gone before he dies, and thus, would have to pay up.

I was going to use that excuse as a fallback in case he didn't die. Thanks for costing me a dollar.

[Alhazad]

Surprise; Hillary is pro-fracking but claims she's not for votes.

Back in April, just before the New York primary, Hillary Clinton’s campaign aired a commercial on upstate television stations touting her work as secretary of state forcing “China, India, some of the world’s worst polluters” to make “real change.” She promised to “stand firm with New Yorkers opposing fracking, giving communities the right to say ‘no.'”

[Clinton's campaign as Secretary of State] included plans to spread the drilling technique to China, South Africa, Romania, Morocco, Bulgaria, Chile, India, Pakistan, Argentina, Indonesia, and Ukraine.

[TheCatt]

I see no conflict there. People can have personal views that disagree with their official jobs/views. Besides, why wouldn't the US want fracking everywhere else in the world? 1) NIMBY, 2) Take power from OPEC

[Alhazad]

I see no conflict there. People can have personal views that disagree with their official jobs/views. Besides, why wouldn't the US want fracking everywhere else in the world? 1) NIMBY, 2) Take power from OPEC

Difference from usual NIMBY cases such as nuclear being that fracking is much more dangerous and expensive to the local, due to competition for water, contamination of water, and hugely-increased seismic activity from the wastewater shafts. It's like exporting earthquakes and drought.

If you want a politician who'll say whatever it takes to win, vote Trump. He's funnier.

[TheCatt]

At any rate, back to the point: No issue here. She was doing her job.

[Alhazad]

At any rate, back to the point: No issue here. She was doing her job.

No, back to the point: are you supposing that Ms. Clinton will really bend to the will of the people re: fracking if elected to office?

[TheCatt]

At any rate, back to the point: No issue here. She was doing her job.

No, back to the point: are you supposing that Ms. Clinton will really bend to the will of the people re: fracking if elected to office?

Dunno. She's made her statement, but people clearly love fracking, just look at oil prices.

[Alhazad]

Dunno. She's made her statement, but people clearly love fracking, just look at oil prices.

Not sure about that. Gallup polls find a country roughly divided. Pew polls say opinion is against.

It's mostly along party lines, too, which only inclines me to be more suspicious of her.

[Vince]

Fracking has been around for decades. The country is divided because the anti-capitalist/Communist/Socialists don't like that we are making money on oil and natural gas again. They have convinced their guilt ridden followers it's bad.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, damn those people trying to encourage others to use fuel that's slightly less filthy.

[Malcolm]

State Department report.

[GORDON]

Yeah, damn those people trying to encourage others to use fuel that's slightly less filthy.

"Encourage?"

[GORDON]

State Department report.

Yeah, damn those people for trying to encourage others for using email servers that are slightly more secure.

[Malcolm]

Yeah, damn those people trying to encourage others to use fuel that's slightly less filthy.

"Encourage?"

Maybe, just maybe we should be pumping more cash into alternative fuels rather than focusing on how to extract every motherfucking drop of oil from every single rock.

[TheCatt]

Yeah, cheap energy sources are the worst.

[Malcolm]

Monetarily cheap and chemically dirty.

[GORDON]

Rolling my eyes so hard I think I just sprained them.

[Vince]

Yeah, damn those people trying to encourage others to use fuel that's slightly less filthy.

"Encourage?"

Maybe, just maybe we should be pumping more cash into alternative fuels rather than focusing on how to extract every motherfucking drop of oil from every single rock.

Maybe we shouldn't be pumping cash anywhere. That's the lie of these stupid pie-in-the sky leftists that think the only problem is that the government hasn't done enough to promote this crap that doesn't work.

The idea of an electric car has been around since they first built the car. Along with steam driven cars and wind up cars and about every other conceivable method of propelling them. We settled on the petroleum driven engine because it was, and continues to be the best of what was out there. Now around 2006-2008 GM was ready to move ahead with the hydrogen car. They had prototypes and even a couple of fuel centers in the NY area. But the plans got killed. Know why? Because the assholes you want to "pump more money" was actually pumping more money in electric cars and told them if they wanted to keep sucking the teet, they had to stop with the hydrogen cars and direct that work towards the electric cars.

Government involvement is the biggest killer of innovation that's ever existed.

[Malcolm]

Government involvement is the biggest killer of innovation that's ever existed.

Bah. I'd say WWII drove innovation.

We settled on the petroleum driven engine because it was, and continues to be the best of what was out there.

Back in the day, we made candles out of sperm whale oil because it was "the best" we had at the time.