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TPRJones wrote:
GORDON wrote:Doesn't matter, the networks aren't going to invite you to the debates because you aren't one of the two approved parties, and no one is ever going to hear of you.

As I keep saying, the system is unfixable, and it needs to burn so we can get back to something that works.
Our two-parties-filled-with-extremists system is the inevitable result of our first-past-the-post voting system coupled to the primary system. It heavily punishes anyone that doesn't vote for the two main parties and because everything gets boiled down to two choices only the most extreme candidates get past the primaries.

If we switched to a single transferable vote that would fix most of the problems over time. There'd be more parties with more options and the extremists end up alone in their own crazy parties instead of being lumped in with - and basically taking over - their less-crazy ideological neighbors.
Why would "they" fix anything when the current system assures them they make money? "They" control the government, media, and federal law enforcement. Nothing is going to change without blood.

How's that for melodrama.
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Indeed. I didn't saw we would switch, just that it's a required change in order to improve the situation. I expect the next iteration of our nation to use a better voting system than this one did.

Nothing melodramatic about what I said above, by the way. It's just game theory built on human psychology applied to voting systems. It's "inevitable" just because people are what they are and the way they respond collectively to systems is highly predictable.




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TPRJones wrote:
Malcolm wrote:...most people like clowns...
Nope.
I guess I underestimated the impact of
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My final guess is that the executive branch has no intention of allowing the FBI to charge Hillary for crimes with all with all that private email server/classified document stuff.

Either nothing will happen, or as I predicted a long time ago, the IT guy gets thrown under the bus.

Or, long odds, it drags out until after the election, THEN it will be ignored.
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Hillary got a new endorsement today.

Remember what I was saying in the Trump thread about the opposition using plants to get you bad headlines?
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Unlike with Trump, I don't expect the press to ask her over and over on the campaign trail why the KKK would endorse her.
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GORDON wrote:Unlike with Trump, I don't expect the press to ask her over and over on the campaign trail why the KKK would endorse her.

If you take three months off from work and follow her press events around to bring it up, I promise to write you in as my vote after Senator Sanders loses.
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Leisher wrote:Hillary got a new endorsement today.

Remember what I was saying in the Trump thread about the opposition using plants to get you bad headlines?
We want Hillary Clinton to win. She is telling everybody one thing, but she has a hidden agenda.

Stop the fucking presses.
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As he told me: “No one would hire such a person to work at a McDonald’s, and yet she is being considered for president of the United States.”

Describes Trump just as accurately. Shit, I wouldn't hire him to shine shoes.
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I'm really fine with that.
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People talk about Trump being a child and not wanting to put someone with that temperament in the Oval Office, but is she better? (And this is NOT a argument for Trump.)

Do I really want a president who has earned the hate and disrespect of everyone around her?

If she hates and is disrespectful towards the people who fight and die for the country, hell...FOR HER, then how does she feel about us peasants?
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...then how does she feel about us peasants?

The same way every other politician does, which I assume is the same feeling I get about stairs when I walk on them.
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Leisher wrote:People talk about Trump being a child and not wanting to put someone with that temperament in the Oval Office, but is she better? (And this is NOT a argument for Trump.)

Do I really want a president who has earned the hate and disrespect of everyone around her?

If she hates and is disrespectful towards the people who fight and die for the country, hell...FOR HER, then how does she feel about us peasants?
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TheCatt wrote:
I'm really fine with that.
I liked the part where she was rude to cops.
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The REAL issue finally surfaces.
John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, says it’s time for the U.S. government to release any evidence it has about the existence of alien forms of life in outer space.
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A dollar says he ends up dead.
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GORDON wrote:
A dollar says he ends up dead.
You could have made that $100 and felt safe about your bet.

After all, he's in his twenties and if he lives to old age, you'll be long gone before he dies, and thus, would have to pay up.
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