Kent State poll says if vote was held today, Ohio would legalize pot.
Looks like Ohio is well on its way to going from illegal to totally legal here within the next month. Medicinally and recreationally. I'll be voting yes on Issue 3 and I know that Gordo will be growing his four allotted plants even if he doesn't smoke it!
Legalization of pot in Ohio
You shouldn't be voting Yes on Issue 3.
Ohio just doesn't learn. Years ago they voted Yes to legalize gambling stupidly. Why stupid? Because the law rewrote the Ohio constitution so that only a certain casino owner was allowed to open their casinos in certain cities and only at certain street addresses.
The most ridiculously corrupt thing I've ever seen, and the public voted it in and now they complain that the casino suck and they're in bad locations and wonder why nobody else opens one.
Same shit's going on with the marijuana legalization. Ohio's already selected the growers and sellers unlike other states that are holding lotteries.
I'm all for legalization, but not for corruption.
Ohio just doesn't learn. Years ago they voted Yes to legalize gambling stupidly. Why stupid? Because the law rewrote the Ohio constitution so that only a certain casino owner was allowed to open their casinos in certain cities and only at certain street addresses.
The most ridiculously corrupt thing I've ever seen, and the public voted it in and now they complain that the casino suck and they're in bad locations and wonder why nobody else opens one.
Same shit's going on with the marijuana legalization. Ohio's already selected the growers and sellers unlike other states that are holding lotteries.
I'm all for legalization, but not for corruption.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Yep, was going to say this.Leisher wrote:Same shit's going on with the marijuana legalization. Ohio's already selected the growers and sellers unlike other states that are holding lotteries.
I'm all for legalization, but not for corruption.
Fuck this state government.
Though yes, I would be growing as many plants as the law allows. I probably wouldn't even smoke it, I just want to grow the plants.
Probably next to my hops.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
that's where Issue 2 comes in (which is basically against monopolies, but isn't that already in the constitution?) and if that passes who the hell knows what's going to happen. It will most likely be settled in court.
But for me personally, I don't really care who grows it and sells it. I don't care who opens and owns the casinos either. If I don't wanna buy and support those who sell it then I can grow my own.
All I know is this, I can now go to a casino (hell I work right across the street from the one here in Toledo) and not have to go to shitty Detroit or Vegas and if I wanna smoke pot then I can buy it and smoke it legally. Somebody is going to make money from these casinos and pot farms, but its not going to be me, so really I don't care in the end.
But for me personally, I don't really care who grows it and sells it. I don't care who opens and owns the casinos either. If I don't wanna buy and support those who sell it then I can grow my own.
All I know is this, I can now go to a casino (hell I work right across the street from the one here in Toledo) and not have to go to shitty Detroit or Vegas and if I wanna smoke pot then I can buy it and smoke it legally. Somebody is going to make money from these casinos and pot farms, but its not going to be me, so really I don't care in the end.
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It's not quite a monopoly. Yes, it's limited to 10 growers, but none of those growers are allowed vertical integration into the rest of the market (ie: shops can buy from any of the growers). Yes, it's a market distortion.
The sellers (stores) are not selected, from my reading of the legislation. The # of stores is limited (one store for every 10,000 Ohioans, a max of 1,159 stores), but the stores are not pre-selected.
I agree that it's not ideal, but I think it's better than prohibition.
The sellers (stores) are not selected, from my reading of the legislation. The # of stores is limited (one store for every 10,000 Ohioans, a max of 1,159 stores), but the stores are not pre-selected.
I agree that it's not ideal, but I think it's better than prohibition.
It's not me, it's someone else.
The part about individuals growing I like as well.
That I don't agree with. End of the day, I'm not growing/selling pot or running a casino, but I'd like those enterprises to be fair so I can be offered options. Competition means better prices, better products, looser slots, bigger payouts, etc.
But for me personally, I don't really care who grows it and sells it. I don't care who opens and owns the casinos either.
That I don't agree with. End of the day, I'm not growing/selling pot or running a casino, but I'd like those enterprises to be fair so I can be offered options. Competition means better prices, better products, looser slots, bigger payouts, etc.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Same shit's going on with the marijuana legalization. Ohio's already selected the growers and sellers unlike other states that are holding lotteries.
The real test of corruption will be the prices the growers and middlemen are allowed to charge. If you can't beat the street rate, then fuck that noise.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I guess Colorado's legal pot industry is facing that issue. Their prices are higher than street prices, so the street folks are still doing well.
“Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
Because the politicians there got greedy, like all politicians. You could undercut the street dealers by a shitload and still make a decent profit on the excise ... or, you could elect to go the stupid way. If you've got the out of growing yourself, eh, I guess. But it's not the same as a professionally raised product.Leisher wrote:I guess Colorado's legal pot industry is facing that issue. Their prices are higher than street prices, so the street folks are still doing well.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I think they realize the probably wouldn't make much MORE tax money by legalizing it... that "recreational" money will just come at the expense of beer or vaping or whatever taxes.
Merely reducing street crime and the drug trade isn't a good enough reason. They gots to get paid.
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Merely reducing street crime and the drug trade isn't a good enough reason. They gots to get paid.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
that "recreational" money will just come at the expense of beer or vaping or whatever taxes.
I guarantee bud leads to fewer long-term medical problems than liquor or tobacco, which should reduce health care costs long term.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I voted no 2/yes 3.Stranger wrote:Big day for Ohio, I'll be interested to see how the results turn out. Personally, I don't think it will pass but I voted yes so Gordon can grown his plants.
I don't like the fact that one needs a license to grow a personal plant. That's bullshit.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
In the same way, like through the courts? Not legalization, no, but certainly the courts should find that it should not be a schedule 1 drug because it does not meet the legal definition of a schedule 1 drug. It hasn't for several decades. At worst it should be classified as a schedule 3 drug. Technically the DEA keeping it on schedule 1 is a violation of federal law.
But then laws don't apply to government institutions anymore, right? Just to us peon citizens.
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But then laws don't apply to government institutions anymore, right? Just to us peon citizens.
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My wife has never put an ounce of thought into it, just didn't like it because obviously drugs are bad. I gave her about 5 good reasons in 20 seconds why she should have voted for it, and none of them were "so we can get high."
"Oh," she says.
Chicks, man. Repeal suffrage.
"Oh," she says.
Chicks, man. Repeal suffrage.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."