Amazon

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:38 am

NY Times piece that's causing a stir.

Apparently, it sucks to work there.

Post by **TPRJones** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:53 pm

Any large company that encourages extra-long days and weeks, that's a bad sign. It usually means very little is getting done because everyone is too busy trying to look dedicated and busy to actually do anything.

There are sometimes exceptions but they're incredibly rare. But if they're still running in the Startup Tech Company mode this does not bode well for Amazon's continued long-term success.

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Post by **GORDON** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:57 pm

I wouldn't put up with that shit.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:59 pm

Even many Amazonians who have worked on Wall Street and at start-ups say the workloads at the new South Lake Union campus can be extreme: marathon conference calls on Easter Sunday and Thanksgiving, criticism from bosses for spotty Internet access on vacation, and hours spent working at home most nights or weekends.

Seriously, fuck that. I feel bad for people who are that desperate to tolerate it.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:06 pm

In interviews, some said they thrived at Amazon precisely because it pushed them past what they thought were their limits. Many employees are motivated by “thinking big and knowing that we haven’t scratched the surface on what’s out there to invent,” said Elisabeth Rommel, a retail executive who was one of those permitted to speak.
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“A lot of people who work there feel this tension: It’s the greatest place I hate to work,” said John Rossman, a former executive there who published a book, “The Amazon Way.”
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“You can work long, hard or smart, but at Amazon.com you can’t choose two out of three,” Mr. Bezos wrote in his 1997 letter to shareholders...

I think Chairman Mao would agree with all those precepts as well.

“A customer was able to get an Elsa doll that they could not find in all of New York City, and they had it delivered to their house in 23 minutes,” said Ms. Landry, who was authorized by the company to speak, still sounding exhilarated months later about providing “Frozen” dolls in record time.

That becomes possible, she and others said, when everyone follows the dictates of the leadership principles. “We’re trying to create those moments for customers where we’re solving a really practical need,” Ms. Landry said, “in this way that feels really futuristic and magical.”

Employee abuse = management principles. Assholes like this make unions look like they have a place in the world. They're probably more concerned with their drone delivery system than their people.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:16 pm

Bezos: not the Amazon I know. Yeah, Jeff, I bet your office has a slightly better view.

Post by **Leisher** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:20 pm

I like how they talk about all the inventions out their for them to come up with...what exactly has Amazon invented? One click shopping? A mediocre Netflix ripoff? Portals from other pages? Not Black Friday Black Friday?

Their prices aren't even that great.

Alhazad · Post by **Alhazad** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:08 pm

Leisher wrote:I like how they talk about all the inventions out their for them to come up with...what exactly has Amazon invented? One click shopping? A mediocre Netflix ripoff? Portals from other pages? Not Black Friday Black Friday?

Their prices aren't even that great.

I generally only buy used games and rare books from them, and in those areas, they excel any other alternative, even when living in a state capital with a huge university campus.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:15 am

Amazon is suing a large number of people who accept pay to write fake reviews.

Good move.