Clinton also vowed to increase taxes on large corporations and the country’s highest wage-earners, an apparent effort to recapture her party’s progressive base now captivated by surging primary challenger Sanders and the reformer agenda of Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who is not a 2016 candidate.
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Vows to chase away biz.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
College is bullshit for most people and professions, but the way to fix that isn't to make taxpayers fund a free ride for everyone. Especially not in an election cycle when it's clearly a way to buy votes.Malcolm wrote:Student loans costs are presently bullshit, but that's because the big schools can get away with insane prices.
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Having the gov't pay for about 50% of a degree for an in-demand field or hard science wouldn't be a bad thing. Saddling your grads with tens of thousands of dollars in debt is about as stupid as you can get.Leisher wrote:College is bullshit for most people and professions, but the way to fix that isn't to make taxpayers fund a free ride for everyone. Especially not in an election cycle when it's clearly a way to buy votes.Malcolm wrote:Student loans costs are presently bullshit, but that's because the big schools can get away with insane prices.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Well, it's at least as stupid as the tradition of choosing a field of study based on a snapshot and a hunch, with zero months of actual adult job sampling in the field.Malcolm wrote:Having the gov't pay for about 50% of a degree for an in-demand field or hard science wouldn't be a bad thing. Saddling your grads with tens of thousands of dollars in debt is about as stupid as you can get.
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If they saw what jobs were actually like, they'd be in a better position to call out all the bullshit in college. Can't have that.Alhazad wrote:Well, it's at least as stupid as the tradition of choosing a field of study based on a snapshot and a hunch, with zero months of actual adult job sampling in the field.Malcolm wrote:Having the gov't pay for about 50% of a degree for an in-demand field or hard science wouldn't be a bad thing. Saddling your grads with tens of thousands of dollars in debt is about as stupid as you can get.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
TPR will argue, but that's because their target market is easily given massive loans to pay for it. If colleges actually had to work with real economics in their operation, things would be a lot differentMalcolm wrote:Student loans costs are presently bullshit, but that's because the big schools can get away with insane prices.
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Four year university prices are disgustingly inflated to the point of horseshittery. It's a system that's been propped up for decades by government money, and now that the government money has been drying up more and more gets pushed onto the students to the point of absurdity. This is compounded by the fact that it's treated in the same way medical care is; damn the price you better go to the best school you can or you'll be flipping burgers for the rest of your life. But of course that's self-reinforcing bullshit perpetuated by college graduates.
Two-year colleges are better. They're a little overpriced right now due to the decreases in government money but they weren't already wildly inflated like the four-year schools and generally have to tighten up the belt and act like a real business because the students they serve often just can't afford tuition hikes.
Although even the two-years are somewhat insulated from real economic pressures. Not all programs can be profitable without seriously jacking up the prices. We charge the same per credit hour whether you are taking a cheap-to-produce English course or a money-loosing Welding course. But the world still needs welders so until a better system replaces it it's all we've got.
What we don't need is more students getting a four-year academic bullshit degree and ending up with insane student debt they will never pay off in their lifetimes. That's wack.
Two-year colleges are better. They're a little overpriced right now due to the decreases in government money but they weren't already wildly inflated like the four-year schools and generally have to tighten up the belt and act like a real business because the students they serve often just can't afford tuition hikes.
Although even the two-years are somewhat insulated from real economic pressures. Not all programs can be profitable without seriously jacking up the prices. We charge the same per credit hour whether you are taking a cheap-to-produce English course or a money-loosing Welding course. But the world still needs welders so until a better system replaces it it's all we've got.
What we don't need is more students getting a four-year academic bullshit degree and ending up with insane student debt they will never pay off in their lifetimes. That's wack.
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I say stop the willy-nilly loans. Most children are bad investments in college. We're barely above a 50% graduation rate with a six-year time window. If you get more brutal and toss out the more worthless degrees, the useful grad rate has to be below 50%.GORDON wrote:TPR will argue, but that's because their target market is easily given massive loans to pay for it. If colleges actually had to work with real economics in their operation, things would be a lot differentMalcolm wrote:Student loans costs are presently bullshit, but that's because the big schools can get away with insane prices.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Malcolm wrote:I say stop the willy-nilly loans. Most children are bad investments in college. We're barely above a 50% graduation rate with a six-year time window. If you get more brutal and toss out the more worthless degrees, the useful grad rate has to be below 50%.
Now here's a good idea. After parents and employers fail to pull their heads from their asses and notice that degrees are garbage, surprising no one, this move will have freed up additional market share for private banks and predatory lenders.
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I have a dollar that says Hillary's personal IT guy is going to take the fall for her email server.
"It was our understanding that encryption was in place, and all procedures were being followed. Mr. IT Guy assured us we were in compliance with all regulations. We feel we observed our due diligence and are culpable for no wrongdoing. Hillary '16."
And then she'll win.
"It was our understanding that encryption was in place, and all procedures were being followed. Mr. IT Guy assured us we were in compliance with all regulations. We feel we observed our due diligence and are culpable for no wrongdoing. Hillary '16."
And then she'll win.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
GORDON wrote:I have a dollar that says Hillary's <s>personal IT guy</s> cousin who works help desk at his day job and helps everyone in the family with their computer problems is going to take the fall for her email server.
Fixed.
I mean, we all know how that works.
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