It Follows (2014)

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It Follows (2014)

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A horror flick that caught my attention because of the premise.

It's basically The Ring except with STDs.
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Heh... my wife was telling me about the trailer for this this morning. I said, "He gave her the clap?"
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This movie is a cleverly disguised anti-sex PSA from what I can tell.
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Never woulda happened if you waited til marriage.
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A supernatural walking (That's all it does the whole film...just walks.) STD that has that ability to know where its victim is at all times. That victim being the last person to get fucked by someone with the STD.

If it catches you, you die. Then it hunts for the previous victim, and so on. Nobody else can see it, but they can interact with it.

My first question was: Who was the first victim and how did they figure out the rules?

Not a great movie nor a terrible one. I've heard people call it the scariest movie they've seen in years. I wondered if they only watch Disney animation films...

I did not get scared at any point, but I did get bored. This film was heavily influenced by Carpenter's Halloween and perhaps even The Thing, but it doesn't come close to either film. LOTS of long shots of scenery and shadows. Most of the horror takes place off camera, and there's really very, very little of it.

I don't know what message the film could be telling us except that pre-marital sex is bad. I mean, faithful married folks are essentially untouchable based on the rules, unless you can catch it via rape, which is never discussed.

I give them full credit for an original idea, and some haunting shots, but overall, it's very meh.

I'd recommend it only to true horror fans. For them, it's worth a single viewing.
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Eh ... I wouldn't call it original. As Scream taught me, there's an implied rule in every horror movie that sex = death. Someone took that premise and ran with it. Thoughts:

1) Couldn't this thing be kept at bay by a group of about half a dozen people cylically fucking? Provided they can outpace this fucker, so I guess they have to be able to jog.

2) Not to sound like Bill Clinton, but what's the definition of "sex" here? If you pull out, does it count? How does it know if a lesbian is fingerbanging someone else as opposed to themselves? Also in the lesbian vein, what about strap-ons? What about animal fuckers? Will it stalk a sheep? These are doubling as jokes and serious questions.




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It continues to walk while you're asleep. So the 6 people thing would be a logistical nightmare and unrealistic without government intervention (money to throw at the issue).

They never get into the specifics of the acts.
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That thing probably knows all your moms by their first names.
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Leisher wrote:It continues to walk while you're asleep. So the 6 people thing would be a logistical nightmare and unrealistic without government intervention (money to throw at the issue).

They never get into the specifics of the acts.

It ... walks while I sleep? HAHAHA. That's hilarious. If only some type of transportation existed that permitted a human to sleep while another deals with problem of moving. Fucking seriously, David Lee Roth could have gotten it by banging a groupie in 1983, stayed celibate, and the goddamned thing still wouldn't have caught up to him by now. Four people could easily tackle this thing. Just have them live in opposite corners of the world. One flies in for a booty call/good of mankind and immediately takes off. It now has to walk across an ocean or two. Even if it can walk on the surface of the water and not deal with the sea floor, the top speed makes it pathetic.

"Goddamnit."

[looks at calendar]

"Fucking shambler's due in a week. Looks like I have to start making hotel reservations again. On the plus side, this one's free if I cash in a couple thousand reward points. Sweet."




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So ... if you get it fuck an astronaut about to go on an extended mission?
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It ... walks while I sleep? HAHAHA. That's hilarious. If only some type of transportation existed that permits a human to sleep while another deals with problem of moving. Fucking seriously, David Lee Roth could have gotten it by banging a groupie in 1983, stayed celibate, and the goddamned thing still wouldn't have caught up to him by now. Four people could easily tackle this thing. Just have them live in opposite corners of the world. One flies in for a booty call/good of mankind and immediately takes off. It now has to walk across an ocean or two. Even if it can walk on the surface of the water and not deal with the sea floor, the top speed makes it pathetic.


Uh, you should probably watch the movie before you start dictating how the rules work.

Perhaps the STD is effective because it is only attacking folks without the means to escape? It seems a movie whose message seems to be premarital sex is evil could also stretch the message into one about how the poor are oppressed too...

Although, I will say that despite the STD being a mindless brute, there has to be a minor bit of intelligence as I remember a single scene where it was tricky and another where it tried to problem solve. There also might be some light teleportation? And sometimes it doesn't touch others? I don't know, the rules are actually a mess.

I should also note that there might be hints of incest in the STD as well...

So ... if you get it fuck an astronaut about to go on an extended mission?


Maybe?
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See I was suggesting that your moms are all sluts and the STD monster probably gets set on them so often it knows them by their first names.
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I don't know, the rules are actually a mess.

Probably because when I think of a B-movie writer, I think of some Barton Fink-looking dude hunched over a Crapple laptop alternating shots of chai tea and espresso. Organization, logic, and analytical thought aren't their strong points.
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I think it has to do with 1 of 2 things:
1. He wanted to make a movie that would get people's attention.
2. He wanted to send a message about pre-marital sex so the monster's rules weren't important.
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He wanted to send a message about pre-marital sex so the monster's rules weren't important.

Maybe he should've focused on making a decent movie instead.
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Malcolm wrote:
He wanted to send a message about pre-marital sex so the monster's rules weren't important.
Maybe he should've focused on making a decent movie instead.
Well despite the objections of someone that's never seen it, the movie did very well and I'd say his career is set.

I'm pretty sure at this point he'd be asking if you like apples.

We all know that making a decent film hasn't been the goal of at least half of Hollywood for some time now.

Honestly, if it bought me a Hollywood career I'd churn out a halfway decently made movie full of logic holes.
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Honestly, if it bought me a Hollywood career I'd churn out a halfway decently made movie full of logic holes.

Produce one shoddy screenplay to make a career out of doing that? No thanks.
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Who says he has to make a career out of it?

Make one film that gets attention and then make what you want. Granted, most don't follow that road, but it is one that could be taken.

And again, the rules of the monster are dumb-ish (depending upon intent), but the movie isn't a trainwreck. There's some decent stuff, but it's very clear it was a first film.
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Look at Peter Jacksons career. Go watch Dead Alive and try to track his career from there to here.
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Vince wrote:Look at Peter Jacksons career. Go watch Dead Alive and try to track his career from there to here.
That one was intentionally over-the-top and gory. It was made with tongue firmly planted in cheek, like Evil Dead 2. His career got interesting in '94 when he made this. The first isn't what I'd call a heavy film, the second is. Pete did both well. Based on the plot description and reviews here, I can say It Follows seems heavy and heavy-handed.
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