yeah, other methods, whatever
In vitro is as genetically viable as actual fucking.
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I still understand why Will would be hurt by it, but I wouldn't understand if he refused to understand his dad's comment and why it's not offensive in the slightest.
I don't agree with that last bit. There is still embedded in the core of the statement "you were a mistake". That is at least a little offensive.
And that scene isn't how you were characterizing it at all. The way you descibed it I expected it to be something like this: Will and his Dad are doing whatever when Will calmly asks in a cheerful tone "Hey, Dad, did you ever wish I wasn't gay?" "Honestly, yes, but I love you anyway." "Fuck you old man!"
Hardly. His father was rather unthinking about the blanket thing. If his son were straight I bet he'd have been all "I will save this to one day give to my grandchildren" but he has the unstated assumption that gay people shouldn't be parents that he's applying to Will. And then there's "After all I've done to accept who you are." which is kind of shitty (in the "Oh, Dad, I'm sorry my being born a mistake was so hard for you!" sort of way).
Will is absolutely being a petulant and whiny shit there, but his father is hardly an innocent bystander in that festival of assholery.
He's pissed off because he's seeing slights in his dad's actions where they don't exist.
No, they are there. But they are a product of an old man that doesn't even realize he's being a bit of an ass to his son, and the fact that Will doesn't cut him some slack and talk about it with him calmly is in no way helpful. At his age he should be better than some emo tween.
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Doesn't make him a bad person.
No, it doesn't. Just like my grandfather's casual racism due to him being from a different time didn't make him a bad person. But it still made him a racist.
Which would have been awkward if his son had been born black. And because he was a good man I'm sure he'd have done all he could to accept his black son, just like George did with his gay son Will.
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I disagree that not devoting great amounts of effort to fully understanding someone elses experiences makes one a racist/homophobe/whatever. At some point people need to take responsibility for their own happiness and realize they aren't the center of everyone elses world.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
There is still embedded in the core of the statement "you were a mistake".
I disagree. I understand how you're getting there, but you and Will are looking for that message, so you're finding it. I do not think it's there. His previous statements about how he believes his kid might have an easier life if he were straight backs it up. Him having that belief doesn't make his statement offensive, it makes it real.
If your kid was born gay, without legs, as a little person, mentally challenged, or even with a droopy eye, as a parent, you'd wish for said obstacles to disappear because it IS an obstacle that will cause others to make your child's life harder. That doesn't make you unsupportive or unloving towards your child. It simply means you want the easiest life for your child, and as we know, anything "out of the norm" causes a bumpy ride.
If you look for hatred, you will find it no matter if it's there or not, and I think that was Will's mistake. His father loved him. Supported him. Accepted that he was gay. Did he make a mistake with the blanket? Sure, but guess what? A man can't fuck a man and have a kid! Sure there's adoption, but Will had to be in his late 30s in the show(?) had no long term boyfriend and wasn't talking about kids EXCEPT FOR GRACE'S!
The dad knew Grace was special to his son and she was special to he and his wife. Thus, the handing down of a cherished keepsake for a child. Should he have talked to his son first? Yes. Was his son at fault for finding bigotry in his dad's words that weren't really there? Absolutely.
Will killed his dad with his intolerance.
At some point people need to take responsibility for their own happiness and realize they aren't the center of everyone elses world.
What a wonderful world that would be.
a parent that won't do so for their own children is a shitty parent.
I agree with this as well, but there's always etiquette that you will be unaware of, and thus, not prep for it. Do you have discussions with all your loved ones about their politics, religions, sexual preferences, etc. to be sure not to offend? Of course not. Granted, with a kid you SHOULD be more involved, but things will be missed.
I still believe that Will was the aggressor and pushed George into saying something he never would have said except in anger.
"He might as well have pulled the trigger himself!"
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I understand how you're getting there, but you and Will are looking for that message, so you're finding it. I do not think it's there.
I can agree with this (well, not the part about me, but in general), yes. But however you couch it the message that will be received includes that sentiment. As an adult the person hearing it should be able to discount it as possibly being manufactured by their own self-doubt rather than an actual inference and discuss it before taking offense. But teens being told such things (and, apparently, Will) aren't so clear headed.
Given the scene as written I don't think it's clear either way. If that were the first time they had ever discussed these things then I'd feel comfortable concluding George had some deep-seated disappointment. Those waters are muddied however in that it's clear they've talked about this sort of thing before, and it may be his resentment of the repetition that is showing rather than any resentment of his son's sexuality.
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