Trailers implied this would be Kill Bill 3 in a France, 1944 setting.
It isn't.
Not only is it not, but Tarentino seems to be disgusted by the peeps who liked Kill Bill.
Inglorious Basterds
I don't understand your latter comment, especially given the very end of the film.
But maybe I don't quite understand what you meant by peeps who liked Kill Bill?
Like Gordon said, I though the move was more Kill Bill vol 1 based on the trailers, and it's not. The violence in the film is limited to a few (though graphic and intense) scenes. In fact, I think I wish they had done more to build up the Basterds.
The film is basically 5 long scenes, all of which are focused around one large event at the end. There is a lot of dialogue, and a lot of which concerns movie trivia from the era. I get it Tarentino, you know a lot of things about cinema.
Overall, it's certainly compelling, but not quite the move I expected to see.
7.5/10
But maybe I don't quite understand what you meant by peeps who liked Kill Bill?
Like Gordon said, I though the move was more Kill Bill vol 1 based on the trailers, and it's not. The violence in the film is limited to a few (though graphic and intense) scenes. In fact, I think I wish they had done more to build up the Basterds.
The film is basically 5 long scenes, all of which are focused around one large event at the end. There is a lot of dialogue, and a lot of which concerns movie trivia from the era. I get it Tarentino, you know a lot of things about cinema.
Overall, it's certainly compelling, but not quite the move I expected to see.
7.5/10
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The nazis in the theater having a grand old time enjoying the hell out of all the american GI's getting slaughtered on screen... seemed to be a statement about all the people who had a grand old time watching people get slaughtered in KB 1 and 2. Seemed to me Tarentino was equating KB fans with nazis.TheCatt wrote:I don't understand your latter comment, especially given the very end of the film.
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Ah, I didn't see it that way. But I tend to watch movies on a more literal plane.GORDON wrote:The nazis in the theater having a grand old time enjoying the hell out of all the american GI's getting slaughtered on screen... seemed to be a statement about all the people who had a grand old time watching people get slaughtered in KB 1 and 2. Seemed to me Tarentino was equating KB fans with nazis.TheCatt wrote:I don't understand your latter comment, especially given the very end of the film.
Apparently he's working on a prequel.
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I agree, I just tend towards the literal. I often miss things in movie like that.
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The two things I had issues with:
1) The choking. And then, what that character does 5 minutes later/end of movie. Again, it's hard to really know these characters, since, while we get to hear them talk a lot, I feel like we don't get a lot of depth since we only see them in 5 scenes across the whole movie. But, why do that, if he's then going to do what he does next? It seems like something the director threw in to throw the audience off a bit. But maybe he hates women? Maybe he hates traitors, yet himself is one? Irony?
2) The tavern scene. They know something bad could happen because of the scenario, yet do nothing to change it? It's a matter of life and death - as far as we know, the Basterds have been careful, never had one die, etc - yet they let this happen? Sure "she chose the location," and "it would look odd if we left without a drink" but it's not like there were a lot of people around to even care. Then, the giveaway - you'd think the character would be smart enough not to speak much, so why was he the one to say 3 glasses?
I dunno... I liked it, but I didn't love it. It was a kind of slow-winding tension, like a soccer game, to me. (which not a derogatory comment)
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************** SPOILERS *****************
The two things I had issues with:
1) The choking. And then, what that character does 5 minutes later/end of movie. Again, it's hard to really know these characters, since, while we get to hear them talk a lot, I feel like we don't get a lot of depth since we only see them in 5 scenes across the whole movie. But, why do that, if he's then going to do what he does next? It seems like something the director threw in to throw the audience off a bit. But maybe he hates women? Maybe he hates traitors, yet himself is one? Irony?
2) The tavern scene. They know something bad could happen because of the scenario, yet do nothing to change it? It's a matter of life and death - as far as we know, the Basterds have been careful, never had one die, etc - yet they let this happen? Sure "she chose the location," and "it would look odd if we left without a drink" but it's not like there were a lot of people around to even care. Then, the giveaway - you'd think the character would be smart enough not to speak much, so why was he the one to say 3 glasses?
I dunno... I liked it, but I didn't love it. It was a kind of slow-winding tension, like a soccer game, to me. (which not a derogatory comment)
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This was just an odd film overall, more so because of Tarrantino being behind it.
As Catt said, I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. As an extension of that, I'm not looking forward to the rumored prequel, but I'll see it.
This film just didn't have the same charm as Tarrantino's previous films. The characters weren't built up at all, particularly the Basterds.
On top of it, the weird cut ins with arrows, video clips, subtitles (with jokes not in the dialogue), etc. just seemed to much more out of place here.
I don't hate Tarrantino for making this film, but I wish he'd move onto different subject matter.
Now to continue the ********SPOILERS******* discusson...
1. I had a major issue with the choking scene as well. However, the wife and I sat and discussed the movie for a bit after watching it, and I came to the conclusion that Tarrantino was trying to portray this man's frustration and emotions he has regarding what he was about to do. She represented everything he was about to become, and this was his way of dealing with it...?
2. The tavern scene was well acted and interesting, especially King Kong, but it was a clusterfuck of retard. -Why didn't her contact just go down and explain she had to leave with him for whatever reason? It's not like she would have said no. Then no need to stick around for a drink.
-Why wouldn't someone trained to pretend to be German know about something as basic as the sign for a number? Especially since it's so different?
-Considering his job, why didn't the English spy simply tell the very first guy to question his accent that he was in the German program to spy on the English or Americans and had infiltrated them, but was now having trouble shaking off the accent?
-The convenience of everyone getting killed in that scene was ridiculous. Even if the SS officer had shot the English spy, the two Basterds still had the drop of the rest of the room, and all but the bartender were piss drunk.
And going to the Basterds' plan for the movies, what moron thought up that plan? At what point does a suicide mission become the best plan for a group of people who have been so successful throughout the war? Where were the rest of the Basterd's? Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to simply find out the location of the movie, and then assault the theater in full force after the movie started? They could blow it up from the outside, or hey, set it on fire and block the exits! Yes, the theater owner's plan was far more logical than the trained military unit's. I thought that was pretty stupid.
As Catt said, I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. As an extension of that, I'm not looking forward to the rumored prequel, but I'll see it.
This film just didn't have the same charm as Tarrantino's previous films. The characters weren't built up at all, particularly the Basterds.
On top of it, the weird cut ins with arrows, video clips, subtitles (with jokes not in the dialogue), etc. just seemed to much more out of place here.
I don't hate Tarrantino for making this film, but I wish he'd move onto different subject matter.
Now to continue the ********SPOILERS******* discusson...
1. I had a major issue with the choking scene as well. However, the wife and I sat and discussed the movie for a bit after watching it, and I came to the conclusion that Tarrantino was trying to portray this man's frustration and emotions he has regarding what he was about to do. She represented everything he was about to become, and this was his way of dealing with it...?
2. The tavern scene was well acted and interesting, especially King Kong, but it was a clusterfuck of retard. -Why didn't her contact just go down and explain she had to leave with him for whatever reason? It's not like she would have said no. Then no need to stick around for a drink.
-Why wouldn't someone trained to pretend to be German know about something as basic as the sign for a number? Especially since it's so different?
-Considering his job, why didn't the English spy simply tell the very first guy to question his accent that he was in the German program to spy on the English or Americans and had infiltrated them, but was now having trouble shaking off the accent?
-The convenience of everyone getting killed in that scene was ridiculous. Even if the SS officer had shot the English spy, the two Basterds still had the drop of the rest of the room, and all but the bartender were piss drunk.
And going to the Basterds' plan for the movies, what moron thought up that plan? At what point does a suicide mission become the best plan for a group of people who have been so successful throughout the war? Where were the rest of the Basterd's? Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to simply find out the location of the movie, and then assault the theater in full force after the movie started? They could blow it up from the outside, or hey, set it on fire and block the exits! Yes, the theater owner's plan was far more logical than the trained military unit's. I thought that was pretty stupid.
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This movie should be called Hans Landa and the Incredible Retards ... Including Hans Landa Later On.
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I don't think he was going for that. You might have a better case that he was turning WWII movies on their heads, specifically Audie Murphy's filmography.
Most of the flick, he's clever, dapper, and polite. I think Quentin wanted a scene where all that was dropped, otherwise you might feel sorry for him when he gets Charlie Manson'd. Even though he had a blade, from a practical standpoint he could overpower her easily. He avoids any blood or noise.
Yeah. Pissed they kill off a couple of the interesting ones in the tavern. Speaking of which...
What a dumb fucking plan.
No one thought to ask the British dude, "Hey, I know you speak German, but you also learned about the culture, right? And you can sound German, too?"
"Oh, uh ... ja, ja, pip-pip cheerio, old chap!"
Secondly, you couldn't put a fucking sign outside that says, "Closed for renovations and exterminations?"
Thirdly,
Just have a fucking drink or two, indulge the drunks, and fucking leave. Talk later. Seriously, all that bullshit could have been avoided by joining in the celebration and postponing shit until later that night or the day after. It's not like the premiere was in twenty-four hours. Fucking hell, she could have said it OUT LOUD in front of King Kong as if it were gossip. She's a fucking actress who's had a couple of glasses champagne too many and said shit. She's got the popularity and looks to get away with it. Beats the mountain climbing bullshit.
Not as convenient as the autographed napkin surviving in a readable state.
That'd invite more questions because it sounds like you've got interesting stories. And I think that dude outranked them. Maybe claim he was born in Germany but moved to some English-speaking place when he was a small kid for a few years, then moved back.
Beyond fucking stupid.
Landa's decision to turn on the Nazis is also coming from fucking nowhere. But let's say he's forward thinking and realizes the top brass over there are incompetent and playing a losing game. Even after securing the deal, don't cross the German-American line. Cap Brad Pitt and the other guy, take the gear, disguise yourself, drive off for Spain or another country where you probably speak the fucking language.
This is one of the more disappointing films from QT since Jackie Brown.
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Eh, things sometimes have symbolism. That scene was so strange it made me think.
I don't think he was going for that. You might have a better case that he was turning WWII movies on their heads, specifically Audie Murphy's filmography.
I'm still wondering why he chose to choke out that one chick, when that totally wasn't his style.
Most of the flick, he's clever, dapper, and polite. I think Quentin wanted a scene where all that was dropped, otherwise you might feel sorry for him when he gets Charlie Manson'd. Even though he had a blade, from a practical standpoint he could overpower her easily. He avoids any blood or noise.
In fact, I think I wish they had done more to build up the Basterds.
Yeah. Pissed they kill off a couple of the interesting ones in the tavern. Speaking of which...
What a dumb fucking plan.
Why wouldn't someone trained to pretend to be German know about something as basic as the sign for a number? Especially since it's so different?
No one thought to ask the British dude, "Hey, I know you speak German, but you also learned about the culture, right? And you can sound German, too?"
"Oh, uh ... ja, ja, pip-pip cheerio, old chap!"
Secondly, you couldn't put a fucking sign outside that says, "Closed for renovations and exterminations?"
Thirdly,
Why didn't her contact just go down and explain she had to leave with him for whatever reason?
Just have a fucking drink or two, indulge the drunks, and fucking leave. Talk later. Seriously, all that bullshit could have been avoided by joining in the celebration and postponing shit until later that night or the day after. It's not like the premiere was in twenty-four hours. Fucking hell, she could have said it OUT LOUD in front of King Kong as if it were gossip. She's a fucking actress who's had a couple of glasses champagne too many and said shit. She's got the popularity and looks to get away with it. Beats the mountain climbing bullshit.
The convenience of everyone getting killed in that scene was ridiculous. Even if the SS officer had shot the English spy, the two Basterds still had the drop of the rest of the room, and all but the bartender were piss drunk.
Not as convenient as the autographed napkin surviving in a readable state.
Considering his job, why didn't the English spy simply tell the very first guy to question his accent that he was in the German program to spy on the English or Americans and had infiltrated them, but was now having trouble shaking off the accent?
That'd invite more questions because it sounds like you've got interesting stories. And I think that dude outranked them. Maybe claim he was born in Germany but moved to some English-speaking place when he was a small kid for a few years, then moved back.
And going to the Basterds' plan for the movies, what moron thought up that plan? At what point does a suicide mission become the best plan for a group of people who have been so successful throughout the war?
Beyond fucking stupid.
Landa's decision to turn on the Nazis is also coming from fucking nowhere. But let's say he's forward thinking and realizes the top brass over there are incompetent and playing a losing game. Even after securing the deal, don't cross the German-American line. Cap Brad Pitt and the other guy, take the gear, disguise yourself, drive off for Spain or another country where you probably speak the fucking language.
This is one of the more disappointing films from QT since Jackie Brown.
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