Anyone know how to get a wireless router working?

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:51 pm

I guess I should say anyone know how to get my PCs to work with my wireless router?

I picked up a Netgear Router and I have no clue how to get the PCs to work. One is a desktop that plugs right into the router and the other is a laptop with a wireless card.

I get the link lights saying the cable modem is being detected and I get the orange link light saying it sees the desktop but I can't get online with either.

When I put the disc in to look at the tech support the PC crashes.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:19 pm

Basically are there any self dectiontion programs that are apart of XP that would be helpful?

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:10 pm

Yes, in network settings. Run the wizard and see what it can do.

Cable modem plugged into the router, right?

Can you talk to other pc' on the network through the router?

Did you clone your master pc's mac address in the router?

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mbilderback · Post by **mbilderback** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:08 am

First thing would be to run ipconfig and see what the settings there are. Chances are you need to browse to your router's ip and configure the basic settings. Do this with the directly connected machine, the instructions should give you a username and pwd.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:11 pm

Yes, in network settings. Run the wizard and see what it can do.

Nothing as far as I can tell. It just keeps telling me to run the Network Wizard each time.

Cable modem plugged into the router, right?

I believe so, I keep double checking it with the instructions.

Can you talk to other pc' on the network through the router?

I don't know how to do this. Also the other has a wireless card so would that need to be changed in order to communitcate with the PC since it is a new router?

Did you clone your master pc's mac address in the router?

I don't know how to do this.

Basically the extent of what I have done is hooked everything up acording to the instructions and they planned to let the "Easy" setup mode do the rest. Problem easy the easy setup mode CD keeps locking up the PC.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:42 pm

First thing would be to run ipconfig and see what the settings there are. Chances are you need to browse to your router's ip and configure the basic settings. Do this with the directly connected machine, the instructions should give you a username and pwd.

I found the username and password in the instuctions and it says that I should open up a browser and go to www.routerlogin.net.

All I get is the browser telling me that the page can't be opened/found.

mbilderback · Post by **mbilderback** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:51 pm

Run the command 'ipconfig /all', cut and paste the response on here.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:54 am

Lets start from the begining.

Use a wired connection to the router to configure it.

Plug your router into your computer, turn your computer and router on, and wait a minute *after* everything stops blinking/running/loading.

Click Start, select Run, and type in the following: CMD
Click OK and you'll be taken to a black screen with white text.

Type the following, then press the Enter key: IPCONFIG
You should get an IP address that begins with 192.168
That will be followed with a 0 or 1, and that will be followed with a 2 or 100, or something close to those numbers. For example, 192.168.0.2 or 192.168.0.100 or 192.168.1.101

If you get a 192.168.<something>.<something> IP address, that's good, so skip the next part which I'll put in quotes.

Your network card needs to be set to obtain an IP address automatically. To check this, go to the Control Panel, open Network Connections, right-mouse-click the Local Area Network, and select Properties.
Highlight the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click the Properties button. In the next screen, *both* items should be set to obtain their info automatically. If they're not, change them. Then reboot the computer.

Forget that Routerlogin.net. It sucks monkey balls.
Open Internet Explored, hit the stop button to quit loading the home page, and type in this address:
http://www.routerlogin.com/basicsettings.htm

If it asks for a name and password, the login name is admin and the password is either admin or password

At this point you'll be at the configuration screen. You probably need to set it to PPPoe and put in the name & password that your Internet service gave you. Save that, then you can go in and enable and configure the wireless settings and security settings (like changing the admin password).

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WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:00 pm

I tried the browser address you said and I still get "page not found."

Also the settings are set to Obtain Automatically but when I did ipconfig and the address is 72.240.145.235.

I also switched to the wireless computer and just plugged the cat5 into that since the CD that came with the router would lock up the other PC.

mbilderback · Post by **mbilderback** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:45 am

ok, where you typed in ipconfig, I want you to type in these two commands:

ipconfig /release

ipconfig /renew

Then cut and paste the screen that comes up after you renew, I need to see the WHOLE thing.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:38 am

That's a weird IP address. Going to http://www.routerlogin.com/basicsettings.htm is only going to work if you have a compatable IP address.

Do you have some sort of DSL software running on your computer? If so, that is the problem. Uninstall your DSL software because it's assigning that IP to make it work with a USB the DSL modem.

If you don't have such software installed, do the ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew thing and post the results. Basically we need to see the IP address, Gateway, and Subnet Mask.

I'm wagering on the software f'ing up your connection.
You may also want to open Internet Explorer, click Tools, and select Internet Options. Click Connections, and then click the LAN Settings button. The only thing that should be checked is the "Automatically detect settings" section. If the proxy one is checked, *that* is f'ing you up so uncheck it.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:21 pm

Do I just retype everything I see since it is the C: Prompt? Or is there a key I hit to copy the text?

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:04 pm

Here is what came up with the router hooked up.

I also removed the router and just hooked the PC right to the cable modem.

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Post by **GORDON** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:14 pm

Looks like you have 2 connections there... if it were me, and I were troubleshooting, I'd go into control panel and disable the hardware for the one you aren't using.

To me it eliminates confusion while you're learning.

WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:02 pm

Are you saying that because of the name "Local Area Connection 2"?

As of right now #2 is the only connection there is. There was a #1 a while back but I was having trouble with it and made the 2nd and deleted the first.

If there is something else that is making you see two connection then I will try to disable some stuff as suggested.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:19 am

I keep seeing "Media disconnected". You sure you're plugging things in properly?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:39 pm

Godron's smoking crack. He's seeing two results on the same screen, and the "2", so he got confused. I can see how he made that mistake.

When you hook directly into the cable modem you're getting an IP from buckeye-express.com. I assume that's your ISP. It's acting as your DHCP server... that is, it's assigning your IP address in addition controlling your Internet access.

Your router *should* be doing that as well. It is not.

You're plugging the cable modem in with a network cord, not a USB cord, right? (Because if you where using USB you're have their software still installed which is hijacking your connection)

Reset your router. You can usually do this by putting a paperclip in a small hold in the back for 10 seconds. Maybe that'll set it back to working order. Try the IPCONFIG /RENEW thing again and see if you get a new IP. (You may want to reboot the computer and try IPCONFIG /RENEW one more time).

If that doesn't work, try this to manually configure your computer:
Go into your Network Connections, right-mouse-click the LAN, and select properties. Then highlight the TCP/IP and put in these settings, then reboot the computer when done:

(I looked up the DNS info for your ISP, so use these exact numbers. You can always set both items back to "automatically" if this doesn't work.)

Now that you're on the same IP/Subnet, even if DHCP isn't functioning on your Netgear router you should be able to get onto it by opening Internet Explorer and putting in the address: 192.168.0.1
If that works, try going here: http://192.168.0.1/basicsettings.htm

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WSGrundy · Post by **WSGrundy** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:39 pm

Did the paper clip reset thing and that helped somewhat. The software that came with the router continues on for a few more steps but it now stops and says that I have no internet connection.

I have checked all the cables again and they are where the instructions say they should be and I also get a little bubble that pops up in the bottom right corner of windows and says that I am connected at 100 Mbps.

I rebooted and tried the renew release thing and that still doesn't work either.

I also reset the router and entered the IP and Gateway stuff as the pictures showed and still got the same no connection to the internet and can't get IE to do anything with the 192.168.0.1 address you gave me.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:08 am

I may have goofed the numbers. Are you willing to try again. This time make the IP address 192.168.1.2 and the gateway 192.168.1.1
Now see if it works with those numbers.
(you may need to reboot first)

After that, put everything back how it was. That is, put the network settings back to obtain automatically. Then lets's start from scratch.

Make sure everything is plugged in correctly. You'll have an ethernet cable going from your computer's network card, to #1 (or #2, or #3, or #4) on the router. You'll have an ethernet cable going from the WAN port on the router to your DSL modem.

Turn the computer off.
Turn the DSL modem off.
Turn the router off.
Do the paperclip thing again to the router. (Hold it in 15 seconds)
Turn the DSL modem on, and wait for the DSL light to come on solid.
Turn the router on. Wait for the lights to stabelize, then do the paperclip thing again. Wait for the lights to stop blinking.
Turn the computer on.

The router should have an LED showing that the power is on, and LES showing that the WAN is connected, and a light showing that port 1 is connected.

Click Start, select Run, and type in: CMD
Click OK.
Type the following and press Enter: ipconfig /renew
You should be getting some some 192.168.X.X address.
If not, turn off the DSL modem & router, with 10 seconds, and turn the router on (leave the DSL modem off).
Now try the IPCONFIG /RENEW thing again.

If it works (192.168.X.X), try going to http://www.routerlogin.com/basicsettings.htm

You should be able to login and configure the router automatically. It doesn't need to detect a connection to be configured (here).
Since the cable modem is acting like a router, you can probably set it to automatically detect a connection. Then turn on the wireless or whatever else needs to be done.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:25 pm

I setup a Netgear router today, and took notes of what I did.

Start with the the computer plugged into the router. Do not plug the router into the DSL modem.

Reset the router. To do this, unplug the power cord and use a paperclip to push that button in the back for 20 seconds. Then plug it back in. Once it stops blinking, push that button in for another 20 seconds.

On your computer, click Start then Run, then type in: CMD
Click OK.
Type the following and press Enter: IPCONFIG /RELEASE
Type the following and press Enter: IPCONFIG /RENEW

Your IP address will probably come up 192.168.1.2

Open Internet Explorer.
Go to: http://www.routerlogin.com/basicsettings.htm
(If not, try removing the S from "settings")

In the WAN section, make sure it's on. I wouldn't screw with security right now. Do that later.

In the LAN IP Setup section, disable DCHP by removing the check mark next to the "Use Router as DHCP" option.

Change the router's IP address to 192.168.1.123

Click OK or apply.

You'll get a 404 error when that finishes, because the router has changed addresses. That's not a problem.

Plug the DSL modem into hole #2 on your router *not* the WAN port.

Go back and do that IPCONFIG /RELEASE
Do the IPCONFIG /RENEW

Open Internet Explorer and see if you have Internet.

Basically, we turned your wireless router into a wireless hub, so it doesn't fight with the routing functions of your DSL modem.

Test your wireless computer to see if you can find & connect to the wireless network.

Once you've established that it's working, change the security settings.

Go to: 192.168.1.123/basicsettings.htm
In Security, change the router's password
In WAN, enable some sort of encryption like WEP or whatever.