I'd say maybe except this one actually matters since they decided to have on UI to rule them all. If ever there were a time to be competent on purpose, this is it. You could drop the next two if you get this one right.TPRJones wrote:Maybe Microsoft has accepted that this is inevitable and they've dumped W8 out as quickly and quietly as possible so they can get it out of the way and move on to the next iteration.Leisher wrote:Exactly! WTF is with Microsoft and their "every other one is good" cycle?
Windows 8
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Honestly, though, it's that they've apparently decided to 1) push up the speed of development cycle so they can sell more copies more often to more people, and 2) completely redo the whole thing in a new way from the ground up. Those two goals do not go together without a lot of expensive competence and nimble management that they don't poses.
"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Windows 8: "A Christmas Gift for Someone You Hate."
http://bgr.com/2012/12/06/windows-8-criticism-android-ios/
http://bgr.com/2012/12/06/windows-8-criticism-android-ios/
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I bought my oldest daughter a laptop for her 6th birthday. It's a touch laptop with Windows 8 installed.
So far I've spent an hour with it trying to configure it for a kid (put in a few simple games, painting programs, remove bad stuff, etc). I wanted to punch it about 3 times.
The touch interface works pretty well for most of it, but the dumbing down gets frustrating when used to doing things other ways. The biggest change is they removed a lot of complexity. So things you're used to seeing and working with are just gone or hard to find.
I have a feeling it will be good for a kid, but it's pretty frustrating for me.
So far I've spent an hour with it trying to configure it for a kid (put in a few simple games, painting programs, remove bad stuff, etc). I wanted to punch it about 3 times.
The touch interface works pretty well for most of it, but the dumbing down gets frustrating when used to doing things other ways. The biggest change is they removed a lot of complexity. So things you're used to seeing and working with are just gone or hard to find.
I have a feeling it will be good for a kid, but it's pretty frustrating for me.
It's not me, it's someone else.
I've had the same complaints.
The desktop portion is still outstanding, but the tablet side...the "tiles"... is less than what it should be at the moment.
Here's a kicker: Things are different from a PC to a Surface, even though they're running the same OS.
Right now, if I was just comparing the OSs of the Surface and the iPad, and excluding the desktop mode which is KEY, I'd give the nod in intuitiveness to the iPad.
The desktop portion is still outstanding, but the tablet side...the "tiles"... is less than what it should be at the moment.
Here's a kicker: Things are different from a PC to a Surface, even though they're running the same OS.
Right now, if I was just comparing the OSs of the Surface and the iPad, and excluding the desktop mode which is KEY, I'd give the nod in intuitiveness to the iPad.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Windows 8 is killing the PC market.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech....eatures
http://www.foxnews.com/tech....eatures
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Windows 8 has no business being on normal PCs and laptops. It is simply not made for them. The primary focus of the OS is its tablet features, so why put it on desktops and laptops? Dumb.
Microsoft would have been wise to leave Windows 7 alone and call Windows 8, "Windows Tablet" or something like that.
Microsoft would have been wise to leave Windows 7 alone and call Windows 8, "Windows Tablet" or something like that.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I don't see why Win8 can't just have a switch that makes it a traditional desktop
Uh...
What do you mean by that?
Have you used Windows 8?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Well, one of the tiles on that "tablet" screen is one that says "Desktop".
If you hit it, it goes to a traditional desktop, although it does NOT have a traditional Start button.
Windows 8 is honestly not horrible. Everyone I've given a Surface to, LOVES it. Not likes, LOVES. (Of course, these are business users, not people who just want to play Fruit Ninja and watch Netflix.)
Again, the problem with Windows 8 is that they designed it for tablets, and the desktop users are an after thought.
I think Microsoft would be wise to rebrand it as Windows Tablet, and give out free copies of W7 to people who want to downgrade their PCs/laptops.
If you hit it, it goes to a traditional desktop, although it does NOT have a traditional Start button.
Windows 8 is honestly not horrible. Everyone I've given a Surface to, LOVES it. Not likes, LOVES. (Of course, these are business users, not people who just want to play Fruit Ninja and watch Netflix.)
Again, the problem with Windows 8 is that they designed it for tablets, and the desktop users are an after thought.
I think Microsoft would be wise to rebrand it as Windows Tablet, and give out free copies of W7 to people who want to downgrade their PCs/laptops.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Right-Click on the Screen and Print is listed in the menu that appears.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Oh, I didn't realize you're on a tablet.
(Just FYI, what I said works on W8 if you have a mouse.)
Are you on a Surface or something else? Can you bring up the on screen keyboard and hit print screen?
Touch commands for W8.
(Just FYI, what I said works on W8 if you have a mouse.)
Are you on a Surface or something else? Can you bring up the on screen keyboard and hit print screen?
Touch commands for W8.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Well, I'm not. It was a real PC. But I was using my fingers a the time.Leisher wrote:Oh, I didn't realize you're on a tablet.
(Just FYI, what I said works on W8 if you have a mouse.)
Are you on a Surface or something else? Can you bring up the on screen keyboard and hit print screen?
Touch commands for W8.
Press and hold, got it.
It's not me, it's someone else.