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Link.

I discovered this a week ago and have played every day since.

Nothing to download, it's all in browser.

It's like a mix of Heroes of Might and Magic, any RTS, the research system from Eve.

You get set down immediately in an empty town and have 7 days of beginner status to get your town and army as built up as possible. Once those 7 days are over, you're fair game. (I have no idea what happens when you hit that point as I'm not there yet. I think I hit it tomorrow.)

You get help via "magic" items that help speed up your process or get you other items instantly.

You have to keep tabs on resources (food, iron, lumber, stone, and gold), as well as, managing your population.

Everything is link, so for example, you can't build walls without a workshop, but you can't build a workshop, without a level 2 forge.

So far, it's been a nice diversion. When you start playing, you could literally play for hours as everything is quick and easy to build, requiring few resources. Once you get going, and things take longer and use up more resources, you'll find yourself logging on every few hours, just to start something else. So, to me, that's a perfect time killer. Get your interest out of the gate, and then back off so it's not a complete time sink.

If you join, follow the quests. They're not actual "quests" like you'd see in other games, they're more goals that the game is designed to point you towards. Those quests will teach you the basics and get you on the right path.

I'm on the Romagna world at coordinates 780,610 and I'm in the 10000to1 alliance.

One negative is that you get asked, not intrusively, to spend money for in game cents, which buys magic items, etc. These are NOT necessary to playing the game at all. Do they create an advantage for those that get them? Yes, but it's not an advantage that can't be overcome.

It's fun and free (with no limitations on the free players aside from not getting access to time cutting magic items.)

Give it a try.
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I read about this on SA. It was all pretty unflattering.

First of all the ads. All their banner ads are basically breasts, like, that's all the ad is. Sometime they refer to it saving a Queen? To my knowledge the game has nothing to do with either.

Is it true that they charge you to chat with other players? Kind of like text message charges.

There was a bunch of other things that people were saying about this game, but I forgot most of it. I think the last thing was that it was financed by Chinese in-game gold players.

Coulda just been SA though.

Heh, crap, the link is also blocked by my work. "spyware/malware warning."




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Troy wrote:First of all the ads. All their banner ads are basically breasts, like, that's all the ad is. Sometime they refer to it saving a Queen? To my knowledge the game has nothing to do with either.
Much of a fan as I am of gratuitous female showing of skin, yeah, those banner ads I've been seeing have effectively killed any curiosity I had.
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I've never seen one of their banner ads. No nudity or queens in game.
Is it true that they charge you to chat with other players? Kind of like text message charges.


Yes and no.

I have never paid a cent for this game nor entered in a credit card number or payment info of any kind, yet I chat constantly with my guild mates. So there's your "no" part.

Also, in game email is free.

However, if you go into the world chat area, you have to use an item to chat there, and while you get a bunch for free when you start out, eventually they are purchasable items. So there's your yes.

But, why buy them? Is it so important to shit talk someone publicly?

There was a bunch of other things that people were saying about this game, but I forgot most of it. I think the last thing was that it was financed by Chinese in-game gold players.

Coulda just been SA though.


There are ALWAYS, ALWAYS haters. Name anything and someone in the world hates it. Not just hates it, but batshit crazy hates it. That's human nature.

What's true and what isn't true in terms of development, I don't know. I know you need no money to play. I know you need to enter zero personal info. I know there is something good here that could be very successful if taken or copied by a bigger company.

The only things I can say for certain is:
1. To date I'm having fun with it.
2. To date I've spent zero dollars on it.
3. I'd say it's 50/50 right now that I'll be enthralled with it in 4 weeks. I was bored after the first couple of weeks with Mafia Wars, but I still maintain my character.

Heh, crap, the link is also blocked by my work. "spyware/malware warning."


That's your admins, not the game. Nothing gets installed.




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P.S. I'm 15 minutes from my beginner status ending. Let's see if I get wiped off the map.
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If The Demoman's experience is typical, you will. (There's also three of their online ads at the top of the article as examples, and yes that third one is real, I've seen it elsewhere as well)

As to it's Gold Farmer roots, my sources say yes. Unfortuntaly I read that weeks ago and can't remember who they were or find them now. Which is lame. But they were good sources. Basically it's owned by UMGE, and it's Gold Farmers trying to go legit. Or maybe farm credit card numbers. The jury's still out on that.

Speaking of juries, they're also suing some blogger. In Australia. No, not the blogger, he's in the UK. Nor is Evony in Australia. What's in Australia are flaky libel laws that put the onus of proof on the blogger, plus huge bills for having to fly there if he wants to actually defend himself. Pretty cheesy, IMO.

I went to check them out awhile back, but my virus software told me that the page I was trying to visit was malwared up, so I skipped it.

All this is to say: enjoy the free game but do NOT give them a credit card.




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All my anti-spware, virues, grayware, malware, etc. warned me of nothing and they're all up to date.

I also haven't noticed anything different on any of the PCs I've used to logon.

I also haven't even entertained the notion of using a credit card.

Although, if this is a scam to get credit card numbers, it's ridiculously over the top. I mean, way, way, way over the top. Imagine using the entire United States military to rob a kid's lemonade stand...

This game is deep and was really thought out. It took a while to design.

But again, it's a great idea with addictive gameplay that could easily be mimicked and then picked up and distributed or sponsored by someone like Steam...I'm just saying...
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So my beginner time ended and I didn't get attacked right away. However, someone from my guild attacked two of the biggest guilds in the game. Mistake.

A normal guild has 100 players max. These two guilds have 3 similarly named guilds (Ex: DTMAN, DTMAN2, DTMAN3).

Suddenly a few of my neighbors were red to me. They started hitting and my guild was nowhere nearby, so I teleported my city away. Unfortunately, unless you have an Advanced Teleporter, it's random. I got plopped down in a bigger group of baddies.

So I sent out an army far, far away and closer to a grouping of my guild, and conquered a flat. I built a city there and have been slowly transferring stuff from the old city to this new one. Meanwhile, the baddies are trying to raid my city whenever they can. So far, I've been a step ahead of them, getting resources out of the city right before attacks hit.

That's on server 84.

I started another account on a new server, 88, and so far I'm surrounded by nothing but abandoned newb cities. The closest player to me is a member of a guild I've said I'll join.

This is not non-stop action, which is nice. It's more like a Facebook game. Get in, do some things, get out. Check on it whenever you have time.
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Was at a family Halloween Party last night and my 15 year old cousin told me I should play, and he spelled it out, "E-V-O-N-Y."

I told him I'd heard a lot of bad things about it, like people trying to phish your credit card numbers, and stuff. He got really upset with me and had a lot of things to say about how that isn't true, because he felt that it wasn't true.

This is the second time I have ever been exposed to a discussion about the game, and each time someone is passionately defending from having its name besmirched. What the hell.




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Brainwashing.
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I'm not passionately defending it, I'm just pointing out that I haven't encountered any credit card phishing scams or anything of the sort.

The closest thing I've seen to a sales pitch is emails sent within the game to my in game email box listing whatever deals they have going on.

That's a couple of weeks worth of playing now.

Of course, I haven't ever been asked to enter a credit card number, nor have I chosen to buy even a single item in game.

I do know folks in my guild have spent money, but I've not pestered them about it or heard any sort of complaining.

I'm not saying nothing like that is going on or hasn't occurred in the past. I'm just saying that I haven't seen it, and I think it'd be the most elaborate trap ever devised to steal some credit card numbers.

(The below comes a bit after I typed the above stuff.
Ok, I got curious and did some research on Wikipedia. Here's what I found:
-Some reviews have claimed it's a Civilization rip off.
-Apparently, they also stole sentences and layouts from the Runescape site.
-The owner of their URL owns the URLs for two gold farming company URLs.
-They also are accused of stealing an image or two for their ads.
-Their early ads were controversial for "being racy".
-The Evony owners have filed a defamation lawsuit against one specific blogger where most of the allegations have apparently originated.
-Some claim the game pushes purchases due to medals that are scare and the key to expansion. (This, from my own experience, is a half-truth.)

That last part is sort of true and sort of BS. If you want to advance quickly, yeah, you can buy your way up. However, it isn't necessary at all. The game provides everyone the same opportunities to get what you need. Also, each day you get an item that grants you a free spin for random treasure. No items are excluded, meaning even the most expensive items (in real world dollars) are up for grabs. One member of my guild hit a spin and won 100 game coins (equal to $10). He then used those to buy a lot more of the free spin items and wound up winning a bunch of the medals you need to expand beond two cities.

And not that expanding that far is even that important. I've seen very few folks with more than two cities, which anyone can get to without spending a dime.

I don't know. I really don't see a difference between this and any of the FB, MySpace, etc. games that are nothing more than rip offs of one another and offer faster advancement to folks willing to part with real world cash.

Truth be told, I see myself quitting at some point, but right now I'm having fun and it costs me nothing.

So in summary, some of their past actions, particularly in marketing the game seems shady, but the game can be played free, and I've neither experienced nor heard of credit card phishing.
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Okay. So apart from the owners starting out as gold farmers, it sounds like it's fairly legit, aside from a bit of theft of intellectual property.

I'll stop hating on it. Still not interesting in playing, I'm busy with Wizard101.
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I'm busy with Wizard101.


What's that?
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https://www.wizard101.com

It's a simple MMOG aimed at a young audience. It can be a bit challenging here and there, but it's in no way hardcore. All the classes are technically wizards, but there's still a tank school, a healer school, a DPS school, etc. The main combat mechanic is spell cards and a point system.

I do like the grouping system. I am strictly solo and hate grouping, but this game does it really well IMO. Players are encouraged to jump into fights they come across if they want, because everyone is rewarded at the end of it. And tough instances have a built in PUG system in that when you go in there's a 10 second countdown and everyone there goes in together. So if you are soloing and hit a tough one, just wait a couple of minutes and go in with whoever shows up and your odds are improved. Not that I haven't played with some idiots, but idiots don't bring you down too much in this game.

It's fun but not too engrosing, so it's a good game to play while watching TV.




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