Collateral - Spoilers thread!!!!

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This was a dumb movie. Had some action, and a bit of suspense. But very little of it made any sense. I wouldn't watch this if I were you. Just way too stupid.
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I didn't have a problem with it until the very end, on the subway.
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I didn't like how they sent all those "LA" teams in to the club, and still didn't come out with either Vincent or the Asian dude. They got NOTHING. I also didn't like how the taxi was able to pass by two moving police cars after the incident at the club, as well as the third policeman at the accident not knowing the cab. In real life, that cab (busted windshield, etc) would have been allllll over the radio. And then yes, "I do this for a living." and then getting blown away by a guy shooting with his eyes closed? Ya. I also didn't understand why, instead of chasing Max all down the stairs at the hospital and then outside, he didn't just yell at him in the stairwell "I know where your mother is!!!" Why would Max put his mother at risk like that? I know he has his moments where he doesn't like her, but still. . . Just waaaaayyyy too many times where I had to ask the movie "What the hell?". That's just my thoughts on the subject though.
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When he was gonna kill his last target, why the hell did he not just run up and wack her, he knew where she was from the phone. Instead he wasted a whole lot of time cutting the power making it that much harder to actually find her plus it kinda gave it away that he was coming for her. That really bothered me but I still enjoyed the movie.
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Exactly. Complete behavior change in a few spots. One minute he's get the job done without hesitation. Next minute he's, let's be the bad guy in a Bond movie and reveal my plans so you can escape and foil them. . . kinda. . .
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Memo to Hollywood:

If you're going to try and surprise the audience later in the film, don't make the surprise a well known actor.

As soon as she got in the cab my wife says, "That's Will Smith's wife."

I responded with, "Well then, its obvious that she's #5."

Also, did you notice that after the crash Jamie Fox saw the workup of her lying in the crash debris? The problem is that all that stuff was lost. Unless Tom had a printer and laminator in the backseat, that workup didn't belong there.
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I want to add that people in the witness protection program about to testify in a major trial against a drug lord DO NOT go out to a club with their criminal bodyguards and without cops.

Nor do people in the witness protection program sit in their apartments without protection.

Nor do federal agents leave a stake out without permission particularly to investigate a crime that might not even apply to their target.

Also, contract killers don't go for body counts. They go for silent kills without any chance of being seen. The club scene was beyond ridiculous.

And why exactly did Cruise turn off the lights in the building at the end? As far as he knew, she didn't know he was there.

Just a really bad movie.
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One more thing to add:

Remember how the coroner could tell it was the same killer because of how accurate his shots were? All the shots were within millimeters of each other.

They made a huge deal about that, then at the end, he couldn't hit shit.

I have less respect now for people who told me this was a good film.
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Leisher wrote:Also, did you notice that after the crash Jamie Fox saw the workup of her lying in the crash debris? The problem is that all that stuff was lost. Unless Tom had a printer and laminator in the backseat, that workup didn't belong there.
Well, not that this saves it. . . but he did rip the PC like device off of Jamie's dashboard. My guess is that it was some sort of PC based dispatch/direction/fare thing. The data on Will's wife was dumped to a USB drive. So, Tom figured out how to get to the OS (normally devices like that don't let you) and open the data. What program the data was in. . . who knows. Like I said, this doesn't save it, but, it produces a screen for the info to show up on.
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So the dude making the switch at the beginning... was it Turkish, or The Transporter?
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So the dude making the switch at the beginning... was it Turkish, or The Transporter?
I completely missed Jason Statham's role in there. I'll be damned.
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Facts be damned, I thought it was a cool movie.
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Horribly written suckfest.
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