Fuck you EA.
I just fulfilled my wife's desire to get a list of what I want for Christmas this year and of the 4 games EA released that I would've put on there, none were listed due to SecureRom.
4 purchases gone so you could stick a program on legit consumers PCs to spy on them. Oh, I'm sorry, you claim it's to prevent piracy. It's done a fine job since all 4 games are easily available at any pirate site.
If I were in charge of EA, I'd absolutely clean house. This SecureRom bullshit is the latest misstep from a company that continually treats its customers like crap. Not to mention the terrible uninspired product coming out of in house development.
One more time...
The publishers or either idiots or liars. Those that think securom stops/reduces pirating are idiots and the other a liars because this stuff is to try and stop used game sales but they won't come out and say that.
For the most part I like to think that I am for the government staying out of things but I wouldn't mind a big sticker on the front of spore and red alert 3 telling people that chances are they won't be able to sell this game when they are done. People should do their own research but kids are people that aren't into gaming are stupid about the industry.
That is my biggest issue with steam is that there is no resale market and yet their games are just as expensive as the others. I want to play Left 4 Dead at some point but will wait until the yellow box(made that up) comes out with Left 4 Dead, HL2:Ep3, and Portal 2 comes out and then get a price drop to $25.
For the most part I like to think that I am for the government staying out of things but I wouldn't mind a big sticker on the front of spore and red alert 3 telling people that chances are they won't be able to sell this game when they are done. People should do their own research but kids are people that aren't into gaming are stupid about the industry.
That is my biggest issue with steam is that there is no resale market and yet their games are just as expensive as the others. I want to play Left 4 Dead at some point but will wait until the yellow box(made that up) comes out with Left 4 Dead, HL2:Ep3, and Portal 2 comes out and then get a price drop to $25.
To give Valve credit though, the deals they offer through Steam are simply unbelievable. Recently offers had their ENTIRE CATALOG for $99 and HL for $.99.
Outside of Googlex (or whatever), where is the resell market for PC Games? I seriously have hundreds of PC Games sitting around.
Outside of Googlex (or whatever), where is the resell market for PC Games? I seriously have hundreds of PC Games sitting around.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Leisher wrote:To give Valve credit though, the deals they offer through Steam are simply unbelievable. Recently offers had their ENTIRE CATALOG for $99 and HL for $.99.
Outside of Googlex (or whatever), where is the resell market for PC Games? I seriously have hundreds of PC Games sitting around.
I have unloaded all my PC games on either ebay or Goozex. I don't get as much as I do for my console games but I sell them for a price I am happy with. I can actually get more for AoEIII right now in trade on goozex then I paid for it brand new. That of course is rare but I still see a market.
They do offer good deals but if you are not going to allow me to resell the game after I am done playing and I have to connect to a server to play the game then I don't think it is out of the question to sell at a lower price since the used market and pirates steal all their profits.
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Interesting question, does pirating hit Valve as hard as other developers in terms of dollars?
Another interesting question, would it be wrong to do a nationwide advertising campaign instructing people on how to steal EA games?
Another interesting question, would it be wrong to do a nationwide advertising campaign instructing people on how to steal EA games?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I have no idea but I know that gamecube enjoy low to no pirating because of the specialized discs and how the GC spun the discs in the other direction and they never lowered any of their prices.Leisher wrote:Interesting question, does pirating hit Valve as hard as other developers in terms of dollars?
EA lobbyists, among others, have made it illegal to talk about how to crack security/encryption. One guy even got in trouble a while back for posting, "To beat this anti-copying scheme, take a sharpie and make a ring around the outside of the disk." I know he got sued, don't know what became of it.Leisher wrote:Another interesting question, would it be wrong to do a nationwide advertising campaign instructing people on how to steal EA games?
And you can still occasionally find the prime number in signatures that you need to decode a DVD, even though it is illegal to write down that specific prime number.
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There IT nerd security conference every year is called Defcon. Rumour has it that over the years, loads of talks've been pulled at the last minute due to a call from one agency (sometimes gov't, sometimes not) or another. They've definitely'd dudes talk their that've been accused of compromising the security of some large entity.GORDON wrote:EA lobbyists, among others, have made it illegal to talk about how to crack security/encryption. One guy even got in trouble a while back for posting, "To beat this anti-copying scheme, take a sharpie and make a ring around the outside of the disk." I know he got sued, don't know what became of it.
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GORDON wrote:And you can still occasionally find the prime number in signatures that you need to decode a DVD, even though it is illegal to write down that specific prime number.
You mean this one?
4 85650 78965 73978 29309 84189 46942 86137 70744 20873 51357 92401 96520 73668 69851 34010 47237 44696 87974 39926 11751 09737 77701 02744 75280 49058 83138 40375 49709 98790 96539 55227 01171 21570 25974 66699 32402 26834 59661 96060 34851 74249 77358 46851 88556 74570 25712 54749 99648 21941 84655 71008 41190 86259 71694 79707 99152 00486 67099 75923 59606 13207 25973 79799 36188 60631 69144 73588 30024 53369 72781 81391 47979 55513 39994 93948 82899 84691 78361 00182 59789 01031 60196 18350 34344 89568 70538 45208 53804 58424 15654 82488 93338 04747 58711 28339 59896 85223 25446 08408 97111 97712 76941 20795 86244 05471 61321 00500 64598 20176 96177 18094 78113 62200 27234 48272 24932 32595 47234 68800 29277 76497 90614 81298 40428 34572 01463 48968 54716 90823 54737 83566 19721 86224 96943 16227 16663 93905 54302 41564 73292 48552 48991 22573 94665 48627 14048 21171 38124 38821 77176 02984 12552 44647 44505 58346 28144 88335 63190 27253 19590 43928 38737 64073 91689 12579 24055 01562 08897 87163 37599 91078 87084 90815 90975 48019 28576 84519 88596 30532 38234 90558 09203 29996 03234 47114 07760 19847 16353 11617 13078 57608 48622 36370 28357 01049 61259 56818 46785 96533 31007 70179 91614 67447 25492 72833 48691 60006 47585 91746 27812 12690 07351 83092 41530 10630 28932 95665 84366 20008 00476 77896 79843 82090 79761 98594 93646 30938 05863 36721 46969 59750 27968 77120 57249 96666 98056 14533 82074 12031 59337 70309 94915 27469 18356 59376 21022 20068 12679 82734 45760 93802 03044 79122 77498 09179 55938 38712 10005 88766 68925 84487 00470 77255 24970 60444 65212 71304 04321 18261 01035 91186 47666 29638 58495 08744 84973 73476 86142 08805 29443
It's not that you need this number to decode a DVD as in it's a key of some sort. Rather if you take this number, feed the binary representation into an unzipping program (gkzip), you end up with the source code for the decoding program in C, which looks like this.
So it's not that the number itself is top secret, it's just an interesting quirk of the way that piece of code was written and te way that gkzip works that that particular number can, if manipulated properly, end up giving you the code you need to crack DVDs.
It's absurd, and I won't refrain from publishing the number if I feel like it. Although if this post makes you nervous, feel free to pull it, it's your board after all.
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