So he took over for Letterman, and last night was his first show.
I watched it with the intention of liking it. But, it wasn't that funny, and when he spent over 5 minutes making one Donald Trump joke after another, I'd had enough. Turned it off before the first guest.
Colbert on the Late Show
He knows he's performing to a different audience and I bet most people would barely recognize his monologues without his extreme right-wing persona.Alhazad wrote:It's almost like moving from decent writers to bad ones causes the writing to suffer.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
His numbers reflect our opinions.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point....enfield
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point....enfield
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
He's in 3rd place.
http://nypost.com/2015....mocrats
http://nypost.com/2015....mocrats
After an initial burst of interest spurred by CBS’s big-bucks saturation advertising campaign for “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” the show’s ratings have tanked and it is now running third in late night behind NBC’s Jimmy Fallon and ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel, who rarely has managed second place before.
The reason? A survey by the Hollywood Reporter found that conservative viewers are turning off Colbert in droves. Nearly twice as many Republicans are watching Kimmel as Colbert, who has turned “Late Show” into a sort of wannabe MSNBC program.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Re: Colbert on the Late Show
Getting into a legal war with Comedy Central over the Steven Colbert character.
I don't remember who, but someone predicted Colbert's failure because people don't know who he is, they just know the character he played. He's been getting his ass kicked so he busted out the character in a desperation ploy to get an audience.
I don't remember who, but someone predicted Colbert's failure because people don't know who he is, they just know the character he played. He's been getting his ass kicked so he busted out the character in a desperation ploy to get an audience.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Colbert on the Late Show
Finally pulling even with Fallon.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Colbert on the Late Show
Not fired and mocking his critics.
He said, ON AIR, that Trump's mouth was only good as Putin's cock holster.
Hilarious as that may be, can we all stop pretending that both sides are playing by the same rules? Anyone who even glanced to the right once in their life would be fired instantly for such a remark.
He said, ON AIR, that Trump's mouth was only good as Putin's cock holster.
Hilarious as that may be, can we all stop pretending that both sides are playing by the same rules? Anyone who even glanced to the right once in their life would be fired instantly for such a remark.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Colbert on the Late Show
"Everyone knows it isn't wrong to mock terrible people."
They are better than regular people. They've investigated the situation themselves and found it to be true. They get to play by different rules that we deplorables could never understand.
They are better than regular people. They've investigated the situation themselves and found it to be true. They get to play by different rules that we deplorables could never understand.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Colbert on the Late Show
Cancelled and D senators are mad.
So is the left side of my Twitter feed. If you think about it, that actually justifies CBS' decision if it was political. "Republicans buy sneakers too." Purposely alienating half of the potential audience is bad business, and makes selling ads tougher.
CBS says it was purely financial, which is interesting because his ratings were higher than Kimmel and Fallon. However, without knowing what the show's production budget is, it's really impossible to get a picture of the full story.
When I worked at a local TV station, there was a lot of talk about eliminating the entire news division. They were in third place in the local news ratings and nothing they tried were getting them out of that hole. We had the best primetime lineup at the time, but the other stations had the more popular anchors. Our ratings were shit, except for weather when they would spike, and then drop again once that segment was over. Our weatherman was the most popular in the area. The argument was that airing MASH reruns would be more profitable. Very low cost, and they'd probably get the same or even better ratings (people not wanting to watch news).
CBS is owned by Paramount, and they're not exactly printing money right now. Plus, TV is getting its ass kicked by the streaming services. Makes me wonder if they're just exiting the late night business.
Colbert will be fine and end up on a cable channel, streamer, or doing his own thing ala Conan. His audience will find him.
In fact, grabbing Colbert, if they can get him at a good price, would be a smart move for CNN or MSNBC. He fits your base, would bring in some more viewers, and give you additional content.
So is the left side of my Twitter feed. If you think about it, that actually justifies CBS' decision if it was political. "Republicans buy sneakers too." Purposely alienating half of the potential audience is bad business, and makes selling ads tougher.
CBS says it was purely financial, which is interesting because his ratings were higher than Kimmel and Fallon. However, without knowing what the show's production budget is, it's really impossible to get a picture of the full story.
When I worked at a local TV station, there was a lot of talk about eliminating the entire news division. They were in third place in the local news ratings and nothing they tried were getting them out of that hole. We had the best primetime lineup at the time, but the other stations had the more popular anchors. Our ratings were shit, except for weather when they would spike, and then drop again once that segment was over. Our weatherman was the most popular in the area. The argument was that airing MASH reruns would be more profitable. Very low cost, and they'd probably get the same or even better ratings (people not wanting to watch news).
CBS is owned by Paramount, and they're not exactly printing money right now. Plus, TV is getting its ass kicked by the streaming services. Makes me wonder if they're just exiting the late night business.
Colbert will be fine and end up on a cable channel, streamer, or doing his own thing ala Conan. His audience will find him.
In fact, grabbing Colbert, if they can get him at a good price, would be a smart move for CNN or MSNBC. He fits your base, would bring in some more viewers, and give you additional content.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Colbert on the Late Show
Source: https://archive.is/SbR2i#selection-1735.0-1771.74For those keeping track of Paramount merger politics, Cheeks did not consult Ellison, Jeff Shell, or the incoming Skydance team in advance. Canceling a money-losing program does not rise to the level of a “material decision” that must be run by the new regime, and Late Show has been losing more than $40 million a year for CBS (though that doesn’t include some ancillary revenue). While the show still garners an average of 2.47 million viewers a night, leads its 11:35 rivals in total audience, and just this week scored its ninth consecutive Emmy nomination for outstanding talk/variety series, its ad revenue has plummeted precipitously since the 2021-22 season.
Linear ratings are down everywhere, of course, and as the Times reported, the network late-night shows took in $439 million combined in ad revenue in 2018. By last year, though, that figure had dropped by 50 percent. Measure that against the more than $100 million per season it costs to produce Late Show. By contrast, the CBS primetime and daytime dayparts are still profitable, and that programming is supported by robust license fees for streaming and other off-network viewing. Late Show, with its topical humor and celebrity interviews pegged to specific projects, has struggled on Paramount+. And of the three network late-night shows, Late Show has by far the smallest digital footprint on YouTube and other platforms.
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That didn’t happen here—though with Colbert said to be making between $15 million and $20 million per year, a pay cut wouldn’t have solved the problem on its own.
Assuming that's true, that's quite a lot of $$.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Colbert on the Late Show
I've heard that number as well.
Celebs don't go on those shows for free.
Celebs don't go on those shows for free.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Colbert on the Late Show
I thought they did to pimp their movie/book/whatever. Looks like 15% of the cost is Colbert alone. Then staff, lodging for guests, I guess, etc?
It's not me, it's someone else.
Colbert on the Late Show
Listening to Bill Simmons pod today on this, and as you might or might not know, he's cousins with Kimmel. Kimmel is done after either his current deal or the next one that he's about to sign, I forget which...it was 30 minutes ago.
Taylor Tomlinson, hot and funny, quit "After Midnight" on CBS even though the show she hosted was renewed. Why? Because it took too much time and she wasn't getting exposure like she does touring and online.
Conan, whose own Tonight Show got ratings that dwarfed Fallon, is more popular than ever online. Hosted the Oscars, has one of the biggest podcasts in the world, and just was honored by, I don't remember, some huge organization. An honor none of the current late night hosts have received. All achieved post-TV.
If they offered Theo Vaughn, Shane Gillis, etc. a late night talk show gig, they would all turn it down.
Point being, this isn't the 70s and 80s anymore. The traditional formula is dead, and late night talk shows are on life support.
Side note: Simmons seems to think John Stewart will attack Paramount to defend Colbert tonight. Probably humorously, but Stewart isn't dumb. He's going to understand that traditional TV is dying and running a business means not running at a loss.
Additional side notes:
-The reason Paramount didn't try to save the show is because of respect and they literally couldn't. Colbert could work for free and it still wouldn't be close to enough. They'd have to basically fire all of his 200 or so staff that have been there since the beginning and are making way too much now. They'd have to gut the whole show AND hope advertisers came back...they aren't. They knew that would just piss everyone off, so cancelling was the only option.
-Colbert's online numbers and numbers on Paramount+ are dogshit. His show is 1/3 of Kimmel and Fallon's YouTube numbers. Sounds like he and his people are very much like CBS...old and not in tune with what the kids are doing.
-Speaking of that, while Letterman easily pulled in the youngest audience for CBS, Colbert wasn't. Young people were not tuning into him, and his demo skewed towards the typical CBS demo...old. This tracks because Colbert was never "cool" like Letterman. Plus, younger demos are all skewing conservative now, which means Colbert's politics wouldn't appeal to them.
Taylor Tomlinson, hot and funny, quit "After Midnight" on CBS even though the show she hosted was renewed. Why? Because it took too much time and she wasn't getting exposure like she does touring and online.
Conan, whose own Tonight Show got ratings that dwarfed Fallon, is more popular than ever online. Hosted the Oscars, has one of the biggest podcasts in the world, and just was honored by, I don't remember, some huge organization. An honor none of the current late night hosts have received. All achieved post-TV.
If they offered Theo Vaughn, Shane Gillis, etc. a late night talk show gig, they would all turn it down.
Point being, this isn't the 70s and 80s anymore. The traditional formula is dead, and late night talk shows are on life support.
Side note: Simmons seems to think John Stewart will attack Paramount to defend Colbert tonight. Probably humorously, but Stewart isn't dumb. He's going to understand that traditional TV is dying and running a business means not running at a loss.
Additional side notes:
-The reason Paramount didn't try to save the show is because of respect and they literally couldn't. Colbert could work for free and it still wouldn't be close to enough. They'd have to basically fire all of his 200 or so staff that have been there since the beginning and are making way too much now. They'd have to gut the whole show AND hope advertisers came back...they aren't. They knew that would just piss everyone off, so cancelling was the only option.
-Colbert's online numbers and numbers on Paramount+ are dogshit. His show is 1/3 of Kimmel and Fallon's YouTube numbers. Sounds like he and his people are very much like CBS...old and not in tune with what the kids are doing.
-Speaking of that, while Letterman easily pulled in the youngest audience for CBS, Colbert wasn't. Young people were not tuning into him, and his demo skewed towards the typical CBS demo...old. This tracks because Colbert was never "cool" like Letterman. Plus, younger demos are all skewing conservative now, which means Colbert's politics wouldn't appeal to them.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell