The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)

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I think Pedro Pascal is overexposed at this point, and miscast here. Vanessa Kirby is 39 or so, and doesn't scream "Invisible Woman" to me.

But that being said, this trailer eats. Sorry, that's what the kids say. It means its good. This feels like the FF. The thing is the most comic accurate, to the original, that we've seen. Although, the voice throws me. I think I wanted it to be gruffer.

Between this and Daredevil, is Marvel trying again?

The new Cap movie is going to bomb, but my fingers are crossed that they course corrected before Thunderbolts (also coming out this year) was made.

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I have a think that Thunderbolts will be good.
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You're having sex with the Invisible Woman. You make a request that she go invisible for this round because...well, you know you would absolutely make that request at some point... You look down at your dick, which is inside her.

Can you see it or is it also invisible?

Discuss.
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I would think you can see it, but I'm not super up to date on Invisible Woman physics. But if you can see behind her? Otoh, if she has clothes on, she's still invisible, and the clothes, too?
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Yeah, I really don't know. She has a special suit that can go invisible with her, just like Johnny Storm has one that doesn't burn off him.

We can see Wonder Woman in her invisible plane, but when the IW is invisible, yes, you see through her.

It's so contradictory. Dammit, we need answers to this!
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I think that if Sue Storm (that's her name, right?) ate something and the food was always visible in her mouth and esophagus, it would have been mentioned canonically at one point, "Before this mission begins, has Sue eaten something? I can't stand to watch her chew food while invisible." So the lack of comment about that suggests that anything "not sue" that goes into her body will be immediately invisible.

Lack of information is the information.

Imagine when she's trying to get pregnant and when invisible there's a load floating around 3 feet off the ground when she's trying to be sneaky.
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It'd be trippy to be fucking her, not see her, AND see your dick just disappearing.
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This is underwhelming, imho.

I don't mind the female Silver Surfer because this is not the 616. (If you don't know, ask.)

I'm worried it'll be woke based on two of the leads' recent comments, and this trailer didn't do anything to inspire excitement for me.

Oh, and I do dig that Pedro Pascal's star is on the way down. I absolutely loved him as the Viper in GoT, but once he did nothing to defend, admitted "close friend", Gina Carrano from the woke mob, I saw his true colors. He's a coward.

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I kinda like the retro look, although it also looks like those "MCU but in 60s Panavision" AI-slop videos.
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Yeah, the retro look is very cool and on brand, but the film just seems meh. Although, to be fair, that's always been my attitude towards the FF.
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Maybe this is a rare case if the good stuff not spoiled in the trailer.
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Why is the CGI so bad?

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Millennials in charge of it and GenZ doing it.
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Didn't want people jerkin' it.
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I mean, they're going to anyway, so...
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Already have.
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I didn't hate it. It was better than, say, multiverse of madness.
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Largest 2nd week box office drop off in MCU history. Maybe Disney/Marvel shouldn't have been calling all of their fans names for the past several years?

BTW, I enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but I thought it was a perfect FF movie despite Pedro Pascal. He's crazy overexposed right now and kind of a shitty person in RL.

It was definitely family-centric, wasn't as woke as anticipated (although still woke, just more subtly), Galactus was awesome (the only thing "wrong" was he didn't build his machine, but rather flew in it), and it was lighter on action than other super hero films, which is very FF.

Spoiler to explain the woke thing, but involves the end of the movie, so don't click unless you want that ruined for you.
Galactus was essentially defeated by Sue and the Surfer. The men's efforts were about as limited as possible. I should say "physically" because the whole plan was Reed's. Ben did give a boost by knocking one building down, but Johnny was utterly useless.

No alphabet stuff though.


First credits scene is exactly what you expect, and seems to lead directly to the next film?

End credits scene is just the intro to the FF cartoon.
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