Battlefield ad designer going to make them for counter-strike.
I never experienced the ads in battlefield myself so it may not be that big of a deal but enough people bitched about it to make me think isn't something I want to see.
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Just as I was getting ready to give steam a try.
I've avoided Steam since the first time it weasled it's way onto my system. Have said many times that I don't like it. Then Leisher started campaining for it, and I lowered my hate for it some. Enough that I actually bought HL2:GotY. Just loaded it last the other night. Watched with some sadness as Steam loaded and it scanned my system for it's games. Felt a bit of unease as it informed me that the game I purchased can not be played by me if I forget my steam name/password. Making me wonder what kind of bullshit I'll have to go through if someone guesses my name/pass and fucks with my account. I wait for all the downloads and patches. This part I did like. It auto patched everything for me and I can turn that off if I want. Played my first few rounds of CS, getting owned due to continually using CoD2 key strokes instead of CS. At least there was no detectible cheating going on like my first experience with Steam.
So, over all, I was not happy about the purchase, but made it anyway due to the PRINCIPLE of Steam. One which I agree with, but don't quite like how Steam is doing it. So, I support the principle.
Now this. . . .
FUCK, I wish I had waited a couple days before buying it. . . I may have still eventually bought it. But at least then I would have known what I was buying into. As it stands, I feel fucked over. But, such is life in the big business world.
So, over all, I was not happy about the purchase, but made it anyway due to the PRINCIPLE of Steam. One which I agree with, but don't quite like how Steam is doing it. So, I support the principle.
Now this. . . .
FUCK, I wish I had waited a couple days before buying it. . . I may have still eventually bought it. But at least then I would have known what I was buying into. As it stands, I feel fucked over. But, such is life in the big business world.
I never experienced the ads in battlefield myself so it may not be that big of a deal but enough people bitched about it to make me think isn't something I want to see.
Eh, they've been there for years, only now we'll be looking for them. I honestly don't have a problem with product placement in games as long as it fits the setting and isn't shoved down my throat.
For example, if I'm running through a city in Half-Life 3 and there's a Pepsi billboard in the distance, I won't care. It's not like the real world isn't full of billboards like that.
Now if I'm playing Dragon's Age and there's a Pepsi billboard, well then, that'd piss me off.
Before these companies go nuts with advertising they should think about what their customers will put up with like Sony forgot to do before launching their viral campaign for the PS3 that has completely backfired.
So, over all, I was not happy about the purchase, but made it anyway due to the PRINCIPLE of Steam. One which I agree with, but don't quite like how Steam is doing it. So, I support the principle.
That's been my point since the beginning Cake. I do NOT like the fact that it has to be on my system, but I try to focus on the positives of Steam. So far, they have not betrayed my trust.
Valve makes good games, they provide a ton of free content, Steam does NOT have to launch with your PC, it doesn't spy on you, they're using the service to launch many independent games that never would have made it to the market otherwise, updates are done automatically, they've made a commitment that if they go under their final act will be a patch that frees all their games from needing Steam, etc.
It's a weird thing to support, but I'd rather support Valve, who seems to genuinely have gamer's interests at heart, rather than EA who hates us, but loves our money.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Leisher wrote:Now if I'm playing Dragon's Age and there's a Pepsi billboard, well then, that'd piss me off.
I can imagine ways to do it that would be okay. As long as the ad matches the theme of the world, I'm fine with it. Like, say, a mead mug with a pepsi symbol carved upon it, and a blurb about "Pepsi's fine bubbly brew, now available at your corner beverage vendor." Maybe even have in-game themed items, like WoW has beverages that restore you mana, one of those could be Pepsi as long as it's done in a way to fit to the theme of the game world like that ad there. Something along those lines. If they did it right, it'd be not annoying at all, and actually maybe kind of fun.
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"ATTENTION: Customers browsing porn must hold magazines with both hands at all times!"
Way back in the day, movies (Laser disk and even VHS) cost $50-100. Then, Top Gun included a Pepsi commercial with the movie and it sold for $10-20 cause Pepsi was covering the difference. Let's see if PC games follow that plan. Oh, wait, they are including Pepsi commercials, but the price hasn't changed. Greedy fucking bastards. Next they'll make us watch commercials at movie theaters. Oh, wait, never mind.
Cake, most clothes these days are ads. Hell, people shop at certain stores just for the privilege of being a walking billboard.
Marketing is insane, but it always will be.
I do agree though, if they can offset the cost...we should get it.
Of course, I don't see any insurance refund checks for people who go their whole lives without any accidents or tickets.
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Marketing is insane, but it always will be.
I do agree though, if they can offset the cost...we should get it.
Of course, I don't see any insurance refund checks for people who go their whole lives without any accidents or tickets.
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"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Well, if they did it right, they should get a huge payout on their death bed.
I don't really see the coorilation between insurance and ads being crammed into games after you buy them. I know going into insurance that I only 'get my money's worth' if I fuck up. In game ads are up there with popups (and those annoying fucking little popup like blurbs that show up in the corners of the tv when you are watching a program that are advertising another program on that channel. I fucking hate the shit out of those things). They are things crammed in your face when you don't want them. A billboard on the side of in a NASCAR game is one thing. An ad for Pepsi plastered on the side of a crate that you hide behind in CS is dumb. Who advertises on the sides of crates like that? The name of the stuff that in them might be one thing. But a big wooden shipping crate would have "This side up" and "Fragile" at the most. Next, we'll see a Nike swoosh on the scope lens when you zoom in. . .
I don't really see the coorilation between insurance and ads being crammed into games after you buy them. I know going into insurance that I only 'get my money's worth' if I fuck up. In game ads are up there with popups (and those annoying fucking little popup like blurbs that show up in the corners of the tv when you are watching a program that are advertising another program on that channel. I fucking hate the shit out of those things). They are things crammed in your face when you don't want them. A billboard on the side of in a NASCAR game is one thing. An ad for Pepsi plastered on the side of a crate that you hide behind in CS is dumb. Who advertises on the sides of crates like that? The name of the stuff that in them might be one thing. But a big wooden shipping crate would have "This side up" and "Fragile" at the most. Next, we'll see a Nike swoosh on the scope lens when you zoom in. . .
Why have any realistic scenery at all? Just fight in a box plastered with advertiser logos.
That game would be FUN.
I doubt they'll ever go that far, but I wouldn't ever put it past them.
Have you seen all the games made specifically for BK featuring "The King"? (I've actually heard good things about "Sneak King".) Remember the Noid games? There have been Skittles games, M&M games, etc. Go online and you'll find games on a lot of corporate websites featuring their trademarks.
How about games based on movies? Aren't they "marketing synergy"?
Ditto for games about Dora, Diego, Teletubbies, Spongebob Squarepants, TMNT, GI Joe, Transformers, etc, etc, etc.
In fact, any game based on an established license could be considered an ad.
I remember an episode of Futurama where Fry dreamt commercials and was confused until someone explained that it's legal to beam images into someone's subconcious, thus, ads while you're dreaming.
If they could do that now, they would.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
All of the examples you site are situations were the consumer enters into it voluntarily. I know the game is about Spongebob when I buy it. So I don't feel screwed over when his image is plastered all over. I knew what I was getting into. BF 2142 has ads. I know it has ads. I won't be buying it. (but mainly cause it's an EA game though) I bought CS only to find out AFTER, that they are going to include ads. That pisses me off. At a later date, are they going to sell an option where for $5 a month, I can play CS again without the damn ads? Sure would be funny if they did. . .
Like I said before... if they were knocking a few bucks off the price and telling us that ad revenue would cover the difference, I'd be onboard.
But there's no way I'm going to pay full price AND be subjected to ads.
And did you see the article about game advertising in the newest (recetly renamed) Games for Windows mag? Christ. These guys recently got bought by Microsoft and got renamed from Computer Gaming World to "Games for Windows." They just printed an interview with a dude running a company putting ads in games... the guy was all about "Gamers love in-game advertising because it makes games feel more realistic and immersive." At the time of the transition the magazine publishers stated time and again that Microsoft would not be coloring their reviews of games and shit.... but here is a clear example of Microsoft likes advertising revenue from games, therefore "Games for Windows" magazine likes advertising revenue from games.
I can't wait for my subscription to this mag to expire.
I'm almost pissed enough to make a front-page post about this. I vote leisher does it.
But there's no way I'm going to pay full price AND be subjected to ads.
And did you see the article about game advertising in the newest (recetly renamed) Games for Windows mag? Christ. These guys recently got bought by Microsoft and got renamed from Computer Gaming World to "Games for Windows." They just printed an interview with a dude running a company putting ads in games... the guy was all about "Gamers love in-game advertising because it makes games feel more realistic and immersive." At the time of the transition the magazine publishers stated time and again that Microsoft would not be coloring their reviews of games and shit.... but here is a clear example of Microsoft likes advertising revenue from games, therefore "Games for Windows" magazine likes advertising revenue from games.
I can't wait for my subscription to this mag to expire.
I'm almost pissed enough to make a front-page post about this. I vote leisher does it.
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