Upcoming Star Wars DVD's
Lucas is an idiot.
I wasn't going to buy them simply because Han doesn't shoot first.
Now I have to hear Lucas explain how Darth Vader wasn't a part of the Force. Does he know the mythology he created anymore?
I wasn't going to buy them simply because Han doesn't shoot first.
Now I have to hear Lucas explain how Darth Vader wasn't a part of the Force. Does he know the mythology he created anymore?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Greedo still shoots first, too?
I assume that because these are the remastered versions according to articles I've read.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
I already have DVDs of A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi (the re-released versions).
They don't play really well on my regular DVD player, but play fine on the Xbox's DVD. They were apparantly release in Japan, because the menu is in Japanese. (There aren't any annoying subtitles.)
I'll probably wait until Lucas issues the "Ultimate Mega-Hecka-Platinum Pack" and get that.
They don't play really well on my regular DVD player, but play fine on the Xbox's DVD. They were apparantly release in Japan, because the menu is in Japanese. (There aren't any annoying subtitles.)
I'll probably wait until Lucas issues the "Ultimate Mega-Hecka-Platinum Pack" and get that.
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You mean Greedo and Han? Actually, that's not a bad compromise. Think about it.
Greedo's a bounty hunter, and would be used to dealing with scum who would fire first. Having them both shoot at the same time puts them on the same level. I mean, Greedo did track Han down while other bounty hunters weren't able to so he's got to be a decent bounty hunter, right?
Han knew what Jabba would do if he was caught so Greedo had to know that he wouldn't leave without a fight. For Greedo to be unprepared would be unrealistic and make him a really weak character.
Following this?
Greedo's a bounty hunter, and would be used to dealing with scum who would fire first. Having them both shoot at the same time puts them on the same level. I mean, Greedo did track Han down while other bounty hunters weren't able to so he's got to be a decent bounty hunter, right?
Han knew what Jabba would do if he was caught so Greedo had to know that he wouldn't leave without a fight. For Greedo to be unprepared would be unrealistic and make him a really weak character.
Following this?
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Damn, that's just unforgivable. There's no other way to put it. I'm almost speechless...GORDON wrote:Guess what?
Lucas *spit* has edited Hayden Christiansen into Jedi.
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GOAT-ASS-RAPING MOTHER-SON-OF-A-FUCKING-BITCH-CUNT-WHORE-PISS!!!!!
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
I wasn't apologizing for the guy, I was just explaining how one scene was better than it was.
Did I like Greedo shooting first? No. It ruined Han's character.
Do I like Han shooting first? Yes, its the original, of course I did. Plus, it adds to Han's character and he's a central figure so that's important. However, it did make Greedo look stupid. How fucking dumb would a bounty hunter have to be to not know that that could happen?
Both shooting at the same time actually adds to Greedo, while not at all dimishing Han.
I'm still not buying the DVDs.
If Lucas has more good films in him, they won't come out until his kids are grown up.
Did I like Greedo shooting first? No. It ruined Han's character.
Do I like Han shooting first? Yes, its the original, of course I did. Plus, it adds to Han's character and he's a central figure so that's important. However, it did make Greedo look stupid. How fucking dumb would a bounty hunter have to be to not know that that could happen?
Both shooting at the same time actually adds to Greedo, while not at all dimishing Han.
I'm still not buying the DVDs.
If Lucas has more good films in him, they won't come out until his kids are grown up.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Leisher wrote:Both shooting at the same time actually adds to Greedo, while not at all dimishing Han.
I've taken the last 24 hours to think about this, and I have to disagree.
Imagine it is 1977, and you're seeing Staw Wars for the first time evar.
This guy... Hand something captain of the... aluminum falcon? just fucking SHOT SOME WEAK GREEN GUY WITH NO WARNING, and then made one of the first post- "i just killed some peep because I felt like it" flippant remarks in movie history. Holy crap. Is he a bad guy? And our heroes are going to trust him? OMG!
Throughout episode 4, 5, and 6, we had a character arc for Han Solo. He went from a real pirate to, basically, a respectable good guy. That original opening scene with Greedo set the foundation for the character. Now, even with Han and Greedo shooting at the same time, it still dilutes the character arc. Before, Han shot some weak, stupid bounty hunter as a preemptive strike. Han was bad news. Now, he barely manages to defeat an equal. See the difference?
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No, I don't see the difference.
Han still "fires first". He doesn't know Greedo is going to fire.
Greedo also firing just helps his character.
Again, its better than Greedo firing first.
You just fear change.
On a similar note, I cannot imagine Lucas could have ever made Empire if he had made the trilogy in order. It probably would have ended with Luke and Vader sitting down to discuss their differences over tea.
Han still "fires first". He doesn't know Greedo is going to fire.
Greedo also firing just helps his character.
Again, its better than Greedo firing first.
You just fear change.
On a similar note, I cannot imagine Lucas could have ever made Empire if he had made the trilogy in order. It probably would have ended with Luke and Vader sitting down to discuss their differences over tea.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
The man who kicked the dog is more dangerous, obviously.
You'll say a man who kicks the puppy is more dangerous because hitting something cute and helpless apparently equates to being some macho hero. However, that's bullshit. It only shows an immature and weak person. Someone with no self-esteem, confidence or strength of character to stand up for himself in the face of an equal challenge.
That's not Han Solo.
Meanwhile, the man who kicked the dog, doesn't fear the dog's attack. He's brash, cocky, confident, and able to defend himself. Yet, he's still immature enough that he hasn't grown out of hurting lower lifeforms.
You'll say a man who kicks the puppy is more dangerous because hitting something cute and helpless apparently equates to being some macho hero. However, that's bullshit. It only shows an immature and weak person. Someone with no self-esteem, confidence or strength of character to stand up for himself in the face of an equal challenge.
That's not Han Solo.
Meanwhile, the man who kicked the dog, doesn't fear the dog's attack. He's brash, cocky, confident, and able to defend himself. Yet, he's still immature enough that he hasn't grown out of hurting lower lifeforms.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell