V for Vendetta *spoilers* - *spoilers*

[GORDON]

Reviewed here.

Ok, why this film IS NOT a parallel to the Bush White House:

In future England...
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- Constitution, and government structure, changed to give - Supreme Chancelor more power.
- Government controlled media.
- Goverment controlled entertainment.
- Government enforced curfews.
- Banning of Islam.
- (extreme) Goverment censorship of art and culture (I'm looking at you, FCC).
- And unless you're a wack-job 9/11 conspiracy theorist, W has never killed thousands of Americans to create a fear culture to increase goverment power.
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And if you compare W's possibly stretching the rules with this wiretap stuff, it's nothing compared to when Progressive darling FD Roosevelt tried to change the Supreme Court by executive order. And FDR didn't get impeached for it.



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[DictionaryDave]

The graphic novel came out in 1984 so unless Alan Moore can see the future any simliarity to Bush is pure crap and people are seeing what they want to see.



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[Zetleft]

I liked the flick too though I knew I would see a bunch of people start comparing the Grand Chacelor to Bush. But can't really blame the movie for those morons, especially if it stayed pretty true to the comic, though I have never read it. Was it just me or did anyone else get the sence that Portman's character was the real protaganist and V was just there to show her characters progression from beginning to end.

[GORDON]

Hmmm.

[DictionaryDave]

I liked the flick too though I knew I would see a bunch of people start comparing the Grand Chacelor to Bush. But can't really blame the movie for those morons, especially if it stayed pretty true to the comic, though I have never read it. Was it just me or did anyone else get the sence that Portman's character was the real protaganist and V was just there to show her characters progression from beginning to end.

I think that in part was what the whole novel was about. That if you live in fear you will fail to act when you know something is wrong. Whether it is fear of what your peers will think or what your government will do to you. In the end you can't allow that fear to control you.

I am reminded of the qoute:
"First the Nazis came…
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak out for me. "
-Martin Niemöller



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[Vince]

The graphic novel came out in 1984 so unless Alan Moore can see the future any simliarity to Bush is pure crap and people are seeing what they want to see.

I hadn't realized that this was a comic until they did the splash for "Vertigo" at the beginning. I'm curious as to how close it followed the comic, since I never read it. I'm also curious about it being a Vertigo title since (I don't think) the Vertigo division of DC existed when Moore originally created it. May for the reprinting it falls under Vertigo. Or is it an on-going title?

[thibodeaux]

Here's the thing: Alan Moore is absolutely batshit insane. Just take a look at his picture, and read the writeup:

Moore is a practising magician, and has claimed to worship the Roman snake-deity Glycon.

He's a hammer, so everything is a nail; more specifically, everything he doesn't like is Fascist. "V" was originally an anti-Thatcher rant.

[Malcolm]

What the fuck? Roman snake deity? Hell, that just means the Romans probably copied it from somewhere else.

[GORDON]

What the fuck? Roman snake deity? Hell, that just means the Romans probably copied it from somewhere else.

When Rome encountered Greek art they would reproduce the piece, then destroy the original.

How bout that.

[Malcolm]

Sounds to be par for the Romans.