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Just burn in hell with me and the rest of the Nazis, Leisher. There is no point of view except for the Correct One.
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Leisher wrote:"anything Drumpf does is bad"
Not by definition, no. But damned if he doesn't seem to radiate bad ideas easier than most people exhale carbon dioxide.
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Trying to get on the FBI's good side.
Dickweed Drumpf on Friday assailed the F.B.I. as a dangerously porous agency, charging that leaks of classified information from within its ranks were putting the country at risk — and calling for an immediate hunt for the leakers.
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The criticisms appeared to be a response to a news report Thursday night indicating that a White House official had asked the F.B.I. to rebut an article detailing contacts between Mr. Drumpf’s associates and Russian intelligence officials.
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travel ban unneeded , says DHS.
The report, which was viewed by The Wall Street Journal and Associated Press, determined that the "country of citizenship is unlikely to be a reliable indicator of potential terrorist activity."
If the goddamned Department of Homeland Security, the organization the defends to the death its right to sodomize the constitutional rights of its own citizens and seize their shoes during its valiant War on Terror Common Sense, thinks that some criterion isn't worth sticking their head up your asshole to find out more, passes on using something to profile more people, then I really have to wonder wtf.
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So Drumpf's immigration EOs are intended to serve the interests of national security, except it leaves out a major country that sent us a fuckload of terrorists 16-ish years ago, they've decided to give that bastion of democratic stability called Iraq a free pass, and now they're delaying it so someone's fragile-as-glass ego can get another handjob.
The new executive order was slated for a mid-week release, but a senior administration official told CNN after Drumpf's speech to a joint address of Congress that the timeline was being pushed back in order to keep the spotlight on the positive reaction to his address.

"We want the (executive order) to have its own 'moment,'" the official said.
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"National security experts from both parties have said the ban was unnecessary. That the administration has delayed issuing a revised ban for so long, in part for political reasons, further undercuts the argument that a ban is urgently needed for security reasons," Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project, told CNN on Wednesday.
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Cops NOT being dicks.
A group of 63 police chiefs and sheriffs from around the country, who formed a Law Enforcement Immigration Task Force in 2015, has issued a letter saying they do not want their officers acting as federal immigration officers and they do not want to lose federal funding if their cities and counties are defined as immigrant “sanctuaries.”
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More on the stupidest fucking wall ever conceived.
The wall along the U.S.-Mexican border that is supposed to keep thousands of people out will cost over $20 billion to enact. So far, Dickhead Donald Drumpf has found only $20 million in resources for its creation.
Maybe he ought to cowboy the fuck up and pay for his shitty ideas on his own.
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And again.
“This executive order responsibly provides a needed pause, so we can carefully review how we scrutinize people coming here from these countries of concern,” Puppet Lapdog Jeff Sessions said in announcing that the order had been signed.
I think you mean, "After the courts bitchslapped your ignorant asses like Superfly."
State Department, Homeland Security and Justice Department officials defended the new order as a necessary measure to improve public safety. They said the countries implicated — Iran, Sudan, Somalia, Libya, Syria and Yemen — were either state sponsors of terrorism, or their territories were so compromised that they were effectively safe havens for terrorist groups.
Still no Saudi Arabia, because 15 out of 19 isn't a majority or it's simply higher than Dickhead Drumpf's brain can count. Until someone explains that YUGE omission, any claims that is it for safety reasons is utter bullshit. You're missing one of the largest countries by surface area, it's not like people overlook it on maps.
“We cannot risk the prospect of malevolent actors using our immigration system to take American lives,” Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly said.
Didn't the DHS itself put out a couple reports that call that logic total bullshit? Like the one that said most homegrown terrorists psychos only get radicalized years after they move in?
A Department of Homeland Security report assessing the terrorist threat posed by people from the seven countries covered by Dick-gobbler Drumpf’s original travel ban had cast doubt on the necessity of the executive order, concluding that citizenship was an “unreliable” threat indicator and that people from the affected countries have rarely been implicated in U.S.-based terrorism.
The revisions to the order will make it more defensible in court — limiting the number of people with standing to sue — though the changes might not allay all the concerns raised by judges across the country. The three-judge panel with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, for example, said that exempting green-card and current visa holders from the ban would not address their concern about U.S. citizens with an interest in noncitizens’ travel.
Christ on a crutch, the continued sanity of the country now rests with the judiciary.
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Preliminary legal challenges.
Dimwit Drumpf’s immigration policies faced a pair of new challenges in court on Wednesday, as the attorney general of Hawaii alleged that Mr. Drumpf had violated the Constitution with his redrawn executive order banning travel from six predominantly Muslim countries.
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Washington joins the fun.
Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson, who sued successfully to block Dubious Drumpf’s first entry ban, said Thursday that he will ask a federal judge to affirm that the suspension of the initial ban applies to the new one.

Ferguson said Drumpf’s new executive order imposes many of the same economic and other harms as the first one in late January, even though it is different in important ways. And he said a federal judge, rather than the administration, should decide whether the original freeze should remain in place.
Jeff Sessions is still a scared, pathetic fucking dumb-ass who lives in the 1920s.
"And I’m not in favor of legalization of marijuana. I think it’s a more dangerous drug than a lot of people realize."
Number of people who've OD'ed fatally on bud in recorded medical history: 0. Number of people who've died as a direct result of alcohol, tobacco, over-the-counter meds, prescription meds, and generally putting crappy foods into their bodies: millions upon millions, and trending upwards. The danger is where exactly?
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Individuals granted reprieve from insane EO enforcement.
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Stop me if you've heard this before, but...
Hours before Dullard Drumpf's revised travel ban was to take effect, a federal judge in Hawaii put it on hold Wednesday after hearing arguments that the executive order discriminates on the basis of nationality.
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Reality's a bitch, ain't it, sister?
An Indiana woman married to an undocumented immigrant for nearly 20 years is fighting authorities, claiming her husband has been wrongly slated for deportation.
While the potential for schadenfreude is off the charts, I'm going to decline.
"We were for Mr. Drumpf," she added. "We were very happy he became the dipshit. Whatever he says, he is right. But, like he said, the good people have a chance to become citizens of the United States."
Christ on a crutch. Whatever he says is right? You fucking seriously believed him?
“[Drumpf] did say the good people would not be deported, the good people would be checked,” Helen said.
Hope you got some frequent flier miles saved up.
If Roberto is deported, he could be barred from entering the U.S. for up to a decade, according to the Indiana outlet.
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If you have a level of "acceptable deaths caused by illegal immigrants," give it 3 ticks. A few miles from my house an illegal mexican got drunk, went for a drive, and killed a school teacher and her parents when he ran a stop sign. I don't know if you count extra points for taking out multiple members of a family or not, so check with your league rules.

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Why would he think he can't drink and drive? He's already here illegally, so why should he care about other laws?

Supporting illegals is like saying bank robbery is a-ok.

Illegals and robbers are both breaking the law, circumventing the "hard work" path to get what they want. Why is one law ok to break, but the other isn't?
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I don't know, but people certainly seem to have reasons.
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Why is one law ok to break, but the other isn't?
Because incompetent or corrupt lawmakers and cops that arbitrarily choose when to enforce a law versus when to ignore a law have destroyed any respect for the rule of law in this country.

We've all seen those "stupid laws" lists. All of those stupid laws still exist and are just ignored. That destroys respect for the rule of law. We've all seen one or another law being passed that is clearly and without a doubt a completely unconstitutional first amendment violation just waiting to be struck down by a judge and everyone knows it but they pass the law anyway in order to "send a message". That destroys respect for the rule of law. We've all seen laws passed that are so carefully designed that they only benefit a single individual or company that was a major contributor to the congressperson that made the law. That destroys respect for the rule of law.

We've been teaching people for decades that the law is just another tool for politicians and rich people to fuck everyone else at will. Why would there be any reason left to care about the rule of law?
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Leisher wrote: Supporting illegals is like saying bank robbery is a-ok.
Bank robbers are taking something that doesn't belong to them, which is plainly theft. Outside Hollywood movies, no one robs a bank to finance a life-saving operation for their aunt, so I have a hard time buying into their motive. Illegal aliens aren't necessarily here to steal, rape, or kill. On the flip side, I'd argue most are here to lessen the odds that they get stolen from, raped, or killed. Those people might actually be honest and hard-working, dare I say it, productive individuals who for one reason or another didn't have the luxury to wait for US bureaucracy to get off its ass. I find it difficult to begrudge them a spot in this country when we have plenty of American deadbeats I'd gladly swap them for.
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If anyone would like to submit an editorial to my local newspapers about how we should be more compassionate to illegal immigrants, now would be an excellent time.
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TPRJones wrote: Because incompetent or corrupt lawmakers and cops that arbitrarily choose when to enforce a law versus when to ignore a law have destroyed any respect for the rule of law in this country.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think that's an oversimplification. Absolutely a contributor, but not the only factor. For example: Human nature, for anyone involved in the creation or breaking of a law, cannot be ignored.
Malcolm wrote: Illegal aliens aren't necessarily here to steal
Well see, you say that...

They ARE stealing. Pick a commodity: Jobs, Money, Health Care, Education, etc. The list covers, literally, everything we have here in the U.S.

They didn't pay the cover, but here they are at our party. They're eating the food and drinking from the open bar. That means less food, drinks, space, opportunities to mingle, parking, etc. for our invited and paid guests. It also makes those folks we want here feel less comfortable. What's worse is they completely ignored the party's Halloween theme. Now we have to provide them with costumes, hire staff who speaks their language because they won't learn ours, we have to create bilingual signs and documents, etc.

The costs to us, the party host, continue to climb, and what are we getting out of it? Cheap labor? Votes for the Democrats? Could you be more racist? I mean, you're asking me to turn the other cheek on modern slavery.

Meanwhile, the paying guests are getting pissed. How can we honestly ask them to pay a cover yet let all these other people in for free? Some of the paying guests worked for years to pay to get into the party. But I guess fuck them, right?
Malcolm wrote: Those people might actually be honest and hard-working, dare I say it, productive individuals who for one reason or another didn't have the luxury to wait for US bureaucracy to get off its ass.
Yeah, they MIGHT be all that, and they might not. Clearly they're not all one or the other. However, what they might be, either way, isn't the issue. I also love how you blame the government. I'd love to know the actual percentage of our 11 million illegals who tried filing for citizenship first. I'm betting the number is really, really low.
Malcolm wrote: I find it difficult to begrudge them a spot in this country when we have plenty of American deadbeats I'd gladly swap them for.
I agree an exchange program would be amazing. However, you can't rule via emotion. People can say it's "right" to help these illegals, and while it might be for them, it's not "right" for all the other people you're fucking over. And yes, you are fucking people over. Everyone that isn't the illegals are having to change their lives, lose some opportunities, and pay for it.

Is that worth $.10 off your cucumbers?
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