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TDE - The Dark Exile
War Status: TKV Victory
Current Score: Unknown, but we won (as of 3/26/2000)
We met TDE the day a friend of ours was killed on Bucs Den. For nothing more than being gray. What the hell? It's legal, right? After some words, they ended up at our forge. Talking MUCH smack, and just trying to cause trouble. Hmmm. Ok, so we declared war on them. They accepted. (oops) They quickly mounted a few attacks and killed us, etc. That was fine though. All our wars start out that way (Ok, so this is only our second war. So what?!). It lets the enemy set the tone of the war. As one would expect from a group of noto-pking trash talkers, they were res-killing, killing our horses, etc. Anything they could do, they were doing it. No biggie though. Not a problem. . . .
So then we start getting ready for the war. We build our tactics, start scouting, etc. You know, the usual stuff. After gathering some intel, we start mounting our attacks. It was the 23rd of January, and that's where our day to day coverage starts. As you can see from the numbers, TDE wasn't doing too well. But it's funny. Cause they thought they were. The trash talk was thick. And really made no sense what-so-ever. But that's a story to be told some place else . . .
It wasn't long before their members were getting tired of losing their equipment over and over and over. . . They started resigning. They went from about 25 back then, to about 15. It became rather hard to find them. But we would see them at their house, so we spent some time there. Then they merged with *F*. So their number shot up to 45. LDR was with us by now, and we had no problems dealing with them. Those are the days of our 14+ TDE kills and less than 7 TKV deaths. Normally at that time was 10+ TDE deaths and about 3 TKV. But throughout the war, we maintained a 3 to 1 kill ratio. And then *F* seemed to leave. . .and their numbers dropped to the low 20's again. They became REALLY hard to find now. Thus the gaps in the day to day coverage.
Well, we now come to the 3rd generation of TDE. They changed their whole guild. Deleted their old stone so they could get rid of that Chaos stuff and concentrate on us. They are trying to get organized now. It's kinda cute. They have learned a lot from us. Their numbers are heading back into the 40's, and they are feeling pretty good about themselves. LDR is off fighting their own war now. They figure we are fine with TDE, and don't need them. So now it's just TKV, and whoever TDE can scrounge up. We greet Dyc, Ragu and the couple other regulars back again. . .and we are looking forward to meeting all their new members again. Stay tuned to see how things unfold. . . .
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| 1/23/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 23rd ended with Alex dying twice, Gordon dying once, Vin dying 3 times, Ragu dying once and their blue healer X dying once. We had the last kills, so we got the loot. We missed getting a pic of Vin's second death on the road and of X's corpse.
- Taran
| 1/24/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 24th ended up with four TDE deaths an no TKV deaths. The pics below tell the story.
- Taran
| 1/25/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 25th ended up with four TDE deaths (Two at the minoc bank and two at the TKV forge) and 3 TKV deaths (One at TKV forge and two at the Minoc bank). Only one pic was taken.
- Taran
| 1/26/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 26th ended with one TDE death and zero TKV deaths.
- Taran
| 1/27/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 27th ended with 2 TDE deaths, and one TKV death.
- Taran
| 1/31/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 31st ended with 3 TDE deaths, and zero TKV deaths. The evening ended with Baltar resigning from his guild.
- Taran
| 2/1/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 1st ended with one TDE death and Zero TKV deaths. We missed getting a pic.
- Taran
| 2/2/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 2nd ended with 3 TDE deaths and 2 TKV deaths. There were two dead TDE at the Minoc bank as shown below, and one outside of their house on Ice Island. The TKV deaths were one in Minoc and on Ice Island.
- Taran
| 2/3/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 3rd ended with 5 confirmed TDE deaths and zero TKV deaths. We may have lost track of the TDE kills though.
- Taran
| 2/5/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred on the 5th ended with 5 TKV deaths, and an undetermined number of TDE deaths. At least 7 of them are documented below. Including one of their blue healers who apparently attacked one of our deamons.
- Taran
| 2/8/2000 |
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There wasn't really any fighting on the 8th. Just one TDE death and zero TKV.
- Taran
| 2/9/2000 |
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The fighting tonight ended with only one TDE death and zero TKV deaths. Sorry about the lack of a picture.
- Taran
| 2/11/2000 |
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The fighting tonight ended with many TDE deaths, and only one TKV death. Most of the pics appear below. The last pic is showing a naked Crete fighting one of our mages. It is to point out that some of the pics appear as ress kills, but they in fact were not.
- Taran
| 2/12/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred tonight ended with
- Taran
| 2/13/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred tonight ended with some 14+ TDE members and blue friends dead. TKV lost only 4. We were able to get pictures of most of the kills, but we did miss some.
- Taran
| 2/15/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred tonight ended with 7 TDE members dead and 1 TKV member dead.
- Taran
| 2/16/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred tonight ended with about 5 TDE deaths and 1 TKV deaths. We missed getting 2 of the pictures at the bank.
- Taran
| 2/17/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred tonight ended with many TDE deaths and 3 TKV deaths. They have resorted to fighting naked with newbie weapons and the trash talk has risen to a very high level. Their blue healers are the most vocal.
- Taran
| 2/19/2000 |
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The fighting that occurred tonight ended with about 12 TDE deaths and 6 TKV deaths. However, 2 of ours warped off. So do they count?
- Taran
| 2/25 - 2/28/2000 |
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I have been inactive for the last few days, so I don't have exact numbers. But I heard about 1 TKV death over the weekend, and on the 28th, there were 3 more. There were no confirmed TDE deaths.
- Taran
| 3/2/2000 |
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The fighting tonight ended with 3 TDE deaths and zero TKV deaths.
- Taran
| 3/3/2000 |
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The fighting tonight ended with Many TDE deaths and two TKV deaths. Please note the weapons in ReTarD's hands. He was not a res kill. . . .he's just THAT bad. A few pics were missed.
- Taran
| 3/20/2000 |
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The fighting ended tonight with 3 TDE deaths and some TKV deaths. Honestly don't remember as I waited too long to post. . . . sorry. But I would estimate 3 or 4. I think this was the night they reset their stone.
- Taran
| 3/21/2000 |
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The fighting ended tonight with 1 TDE death and zero TKV deaths.
- Taran
| 3/22/2000 |
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The fighting tonight ended with at least 6 TDE deaths and 6 TKV deaths.
- Taran
| 3/23/2000 |
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The fighting tonight ended with 1 TDE death and zero TKV deaths. Somehow, Grav got ReTaRd killed too. . . . but we aren't sure how.
- Taran
| 3/24/2000 |
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The fighting ended tonight with 2 TDE deaths and one TKV death.
- Taran
| 3/25/2000 |
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The fighting ended tonight with 3 TDE deaths and 4 TKV deaths.
- Taran
| 3/26/2000 |
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Tonight ended with zero TDE deaths and one TKV death.
- Taran
For your entertainment, here are some letters we have received from various TDE members over time, (misspellings are not corrected). . . .
Pole - 01/24/2000
this is Pole aka Slim Shady aka Dark Jedi from TDE
i wanna inform you that you somehting wrong about us:
1) you listed our GM skills wrong most of us at 5x gm warriors and 4 of
our mages are 7x gm.-- that embarrases us that u ahve us down for 3, for
example my frined Inego is- GM Healing, Anatomy, Fencing, Archery, and
Tactics.
Dyceldarg is - GM Mage, Swords, Tact, Wrestling, Eval int, Magery,
Meditation and resist.
2) on your war info with TDE u dont shot screenshots of u dead and the
only ones u have is of some lamer paralyzing someone and then sending a
demon after them, that is not fighitng that is called being gay... well in
my book when that is all you can do do what you can because we can always
dispel them...
No offense but i hope you take some from this.. you never fight you always
run into your guildhouse and start banning us.
3) get some balls and pvp we are in minoc 24:7 bring ur best and die like
the rest.
4) we are not only a NPK guild but a lamer-killing guild, and occasionally
we do PK.
5) my personal opinion get some wallpaper on your website plane white
sucks. Get some graphix too.
if you wanna comment please icq cuz email blows
19[xxxx]3
----------i posted this email on the joining section cuz i knew thered be
one there and i didnt really want to look around for it somewhere else.
My comments . . .
Look at the War Update pages. You will see that all the fighting starts in Minoc. . . . then, progresses to fighting at their house. 80% of our guild is banned from their house. . .
I was told that 'plane white sucks'. Is that like 'grass green' or 'brick red'? I just don't remember the 'plane white' crayon. . . .
Vince - 01/27/2000
Hello (I dont know your in game name), I am Vincent Valintin aka
Macross in game.
I would like to ask you a few questions, that could help make our war
better. First off, I would like to know when the majority of your guild is
on, and I can let you know when we are on, to help us (and you) organize
strikes better. Being that we are a large guild, at least 2 or 3 of us are
online at all times, but we peak between 9-11:30 central time. Also, we
are going to set up a web page similar to your war section, devoted to
screens fromt he war, since yours are missing any/all of our kills (not
blaming you, who would take a screen of their own death?). I would also
like to ask you why it seems, that your guild must rely on the guildhouse
for protection? This ruins the war for us, and makes it a lot less
real...At no point have we ever hidden in our house, whenever you find us
at the Ice isle house, We always come outside to fight, not hide in our
house and ban people/shoot magic. This affects us in amny ways, becuase
not only is it hard for us to kill you (mostly becuase ALL of our melees
are rendered useless, being banned from the house) but also if we do
manage to kill you, we cannot loot the corpses, thus the victory has no
rewards. It would be very cool if we could do htings such as fight over
towns/take over the enemy's base town, ect. These are just some
suggestions I have that I feel would make the war better. Oh, and this is
just a thought but...I was thinking we could inforce rules about looting
runes/clothing, as these arent worth much, but they are a pain in the ass
to get back.
-Vince
My comments
This was a civilized request for the most part. Snuck a BIT of smack talk in there. . .but over all, much better than your average TDE member. . . But I have to point out the number of TKV members banned from their house. . . . The rest of his requests just don't make sense to me. . . I don't think there is anything wrong with using your house for protection. It never even DAWNED on me to ask someone to unban me so I could loot them. I point out us being banned for irony's sake only.
Crete - 02/02/2000
Yes i am crete and i would like to tell u that that was me dieing on the 1st of feb... i was im the middle of a web page when i was disc. and one of my friends in Minoc told me u guys killed me, i would like to laugh at your attemp to make your selves look better then we, Tde,. I would openly like to offer a duel between one of the ppl u choose to one of our chosing... this means a duel in which no dragons or drakes brought in just PVP not PV dragon.... and why did u not include the night when u 8 tkv took on one of our members (Eternal Light) in which he ended up killing 4 of your members 3 times each, none of which was res killing like u ppl do. Again i would like to chalange TKV to a duel vs TDE , one of yours Vs. one of ours.Crete,TDE,(gm anat) <----pls update =/
My Comments
Duel? If you want to duel, you don't go to war. We don't kill for sport. You killed our friend unjustly, and are now paying for it. You didn't ask my gray friend if he wanted to duel. You all pounced and killed him. But I degress. . . We are at war. Thus, dueling is not an option.
This is also Create. Just HAD to include the subject. . . .
Subject: who do u guys never come out of your house... even when its an
even 2v2?
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 20:37:51 PST
do u guys only hunt in packs or somehting..... u never come out of your
house.... pls play with us and say u will duel...
My Comments
Speechless. . . .
Vince - 02/03/2000
Hello againThis is Vincent Valintin aka macross again (My other e-mail addy isn't working). I am trying to be a voice of reason in all of this chaos, and it just isn't working. I think you are an intelligent man, judging from your e-mail, but I don't understand something, please try and help me here.
I am writing this after tonights events (Thursday 1/3/2000) becuase it just doesn't make sense. I logged in as Macross, in a death robe with full health (just from sitting there and logging) and nothing else on me besides a rune I found laying on the ground. I saw you there, so you must have seen this first hand. Now my problem is, I stated "res" several times, and you still attacked. Now this is fine, as I know res killing comes with the territory, but I still think we could avoid it as two warring factions. My reasoning behind this is, when I logged in, I had nothing, now lets say you guys let me equip, and prepare for battle, there are several advantages for both sides if this were to occur.
1. It would be more then for me (Im sure you realize res killing isnt fun for the victom)
2. It would be more fun fo you guys (Sure res killing is sorta fun, but it gets old, plus victory is so much sweeter if you EARN it.)
3. If I do die, you guys actually get EQUIPMENT, not just a rune
I think that if you pointed this out to your troops, they would listen. Also, there are certain circumstances in which res killing is a must, for example when I have just died, and quickly ressed and come back to loot myself, before your guys have had the chance to do it. THAT is an acceptable time to res kill.
On the subject of looting, and this is that part that makes me sick, I feel that both sides should agree to no looting runes and clothing. Personally I work hard to look good, and I don't think that any of your guildmembers are so poor they need to loot clothing to sell. As far as runes go, I usually use my melee character when fighting you guys, becuase town fights are made for melees. When he dies (usually to deamons =P) he can't remark runes for himself, and even if he could, its a waist. I personally have better things to do with my life than remark runes and buy more clothing in this game. If you do not have the command and authority to tell your guildmembers not to loot runes and the like, or they don't listen to you, I feel that either they don't deserve to be in your guild, or you don't deserve to be the guildmaster.
Also, I would like to point out the cowardice of your guild. When I recalled away with Macross, I didnt recall out of fear, I recalled away, re-equipped and came back to fight against unbeatable odds, it was 5-1 at the time, and I would have made it 5vs2, except I died almost instantly to 3 awaiting deamons. The point being I never ran away to hide, even if im out numbered. Its just a game after all.
Thanks for your time, sorry for the spelling errors and run on sentances. Im tired and its getting late...
Oh, and I quit with Vincent for reasons other then getting killed, seeing as he is my money maker, something of which I am running low on, but im still in with Macross, so I hope to see you on a (deamonless) battlefield.
My Comments
Still, very civilized. I'm impressed. But all of his requests were unreasonable. This was war, and war is hell. I never expected his counterparts to live up to anything above what they were already displaying anyway. Not sure how he got tangled up with TDE.
The Big Ragu - 02/04/2000
Hello,I would like to know why yhour guild insists on fighting like cowards, using daemons during an even matched fight. You and I faught the onther night which was an alright fught even though you did infact have 2 healers one being blue.
Anyhow I'll get right to the point.
I could care less about loosing my things, I have a gm smith and can make anything I need but, many of our members don't. All I ask of you and your guildmates is to come to fights like real warriors and fight without using your petty pets and deamons. We will also gladly take any fight outside of town for your mages.
Saying All Kill is no way to fight and is boring for both parties so I hereby challenge you and you guild to put up a good fight and show everyone the respect they need.
We did not start to res kill your people and you showed a total disrepect by doing it to TDE. If you wish we can start. We can also start using pets if you wish that as well, but we choose not to.
The Big Ragu 1st lieutenant of TDE.
My Comments
As stated earlier, they set the tone of the war. Up to this point, we had yet to kill a horse in battle. Unlike them. We do res-kill though. Would have even if they didn't. If you are an enemy, on the battle field, you will be killed. If you want safety, as you are unequiped, weak, etc. . . . don't look for it on the battle field. It's a big world out there. Don't go where the enemy is, unless you are prepared to die. They show great blindness to their own actions. To this day, we still hear their members ourside our house making fun of us for banning them. *sigh* But as I stated, logic is not something they have a firm grasp on.
Our friend Crete - 03/04/2000
how come i never see a 1v1 in your pictures.... its always like a 3v1 or a fight with daemons....... and why have u not responded to Crete's resquest for a 1v1? o well, write back so i know u guys arn't total dumbassesCrete
P.S. we got more guild mates cuz =F= and tde merged, we were all chaos in vesper in minoc so we decided to merge, oh ya, why dont u guys have the balls to go order?
My Comments
He has a way of making me speechless. I do feel sorry for this one. Again, I must point out that TDE is no longer Chaos. Also, I did respond to him (didn't want to be a dumbass and all. . . . see what I mean about logic?) and the following is what he said. . . .
Crete - 03/05/2000
You wanna know something funny, right after i wrote the letter i got a request to join my old guild, so i did. Shortly after that i went to town gray from dueling someone and low and behold i get attacked by 5 tde members whom names i do not recognize. After beating the shit outa them i preceded to talk to the guild master,Inego, and he told me theres nothing he can do.Telling that short story, i hope u beat the shit outa them
My Comments
I noticed that Crete is on the TDE newbie stone, and was asking to be able to rejoin TDE. I sure hope this doesn't hurt his chances. Cause it's been a while since we have been able to relieve him of his equipment. Welcome back Crete!!! Maybe. . . .