TheCatt wrote: We only owe them $1T... that's not devastating to them.
Not as much as I had been told.
TheCatt wrote: At this point, I'd bet on China.
I wouldn't. While Europe might be willing to bend the knee, the U.S. is China's biggest market. If we just cut them off, it'd be devastating to them. And yes, their one resource that helps us make electronics would be a devastating loss for us. However, don't discount their massive population being oppressed by their government. At some point those people are going to want more, and it's going to hurt China.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Leisher wrote: I wouldn't. While Europe might be willing to bend the knee, the U.S. is China's biggest market. If we just cut them off, it'd be devastating to them. And yes, their one resource that helps us make electronics would be a devastating loss for us.
Shit, they make everything we use.
Leisher wrote: However, don't discount their massive population being oppressed by their government. At some point those people are going to want more, and it's going to hurt China.
They make a lot, but not everything. In fact, as I posted here elsewhere, a lot of manufacturers don't even make the stuff in China anymore. They've moved to other Asian countries.
TheCatt wrote: I think like 5% of them care.
I'll bet more care than you think. Even with their censored internet, people get hints of actual freedom elsewhere.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
They make a lot, but not everything. In fact, as I posted here elsewhere, a lot of manufacturers don't even make the stuff in China anymore. They've moved to other Asian countries.
If china could manage to fuck our harbors/distribution, it wont matter where our stuff comes from.
Really I'm saying their tactic will be 100% EMP. That's how they win it all with a single sneak attack.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
GORDON wrote: Really I'm saying their tactic will be 100% EMP. That's how they win it all with a single sneak attack.
Why bother? Soon enough they could shut down all communications/internet, power stations/water supplies, etc just via network
This is what really bugs me about the stance the Euros are taking. The decision makers are old people with no real grasp of technology nor the foresight to see how letting another country, with a history of espionage, build and control their technological infrastructure can easily bite them in the ass later.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
GORDON wrote: Really I'm saying their tactic will be 100% EMP. That's how they win it all with a single sneak attack.
Why bother? Soon enough they could shut down all communications/internet, power stations/water supplies, etc just via network
This is what really bugs me about the stance the Euros are taking. The decision makers are old people with no real grasp of technology nor the foresight to see how letting another country, with a history of espionage, build and control their technological infrastructure can easily bite them in the ass later.
I feel like we need an alien invasion or something that Earth can unite against. Of course, then we'll have our own version of Benedict Arnoldsor something.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
There's all this talk of masks becoming a permanent feature, restaurants and theaters running half capacity, social distancing becoming "the new normal." It would be ironic if the human race actually stopped sharing the casual bugs amongst ourselves, and it weakened our immune systems, and made us more vulnerable for when the next serious bug comes along.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Besides, the "new normal" is the old normal since most people are still massing together without a care in the world. They're either on beaches or in protest parades.
"Happy slaves are the worst enemies of freedom." - Marie Von Ebner
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies..." - Orwell
Occurs to me that young people are actively spreading it around, and have been from the beginning, since it only kills.olds. there is no.downside for those without conscience.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
GORDON wrote: Occurs to me that young people are actively spreading it around, and have been from the beginning, since it only kills.olds. there is no.downside for those without conscience.
Maybe the youngs will get enough immunity that the rest of us become safe?
GORDON wrote: Occurs to me that young people are actively spreading it around, and have been from the beginning, since it only kills.olds. there is no.downside for those without conscience.
Maybe the youngs will get enough immunity that the rest of us become safe?
Sure. But they've been spreading it as hard as possible since the beginning. "You're going to get me sick!" "Ok, boomer." Not a lot of love, there.
How's Sweden doing with their "let it burn through without wrecking our economy" plan, btw? Did it work? Honestly asking, haven't heard.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."