Coronavirus

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:14 pm

Troy wrote: What's up with these harsh restrictions in Michigan?

Governor Whitmer is an absolute moron.

Why people can't paint, I have no idea. People are stuck home and trying to find things to do. You'd think home improvement would be win-win-win.

Post by **Troy** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:22 pm

TheCatt wrote:
Troy wrote: What's up with these harsh restrictions in Michigan?
I don't get it, but I also don't know what's going on in Michigan.

Things are slow enough around here that I would hope to have some lessening in early May. We've got more ventilators, etc.

That's great, I agree and hope the same about California. I think we have to set some strict standards and then get going, especially in less dense areas.

Health department / govt will have to have a lot of checks for the the idiots, of course. Need to get good buy-in and contact tracing as well. If we don't, something close to the great depression for 2+ years

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:49 pm

I heard Michigan was shutting down plant nurseries... right at planting season. If Ohio does this, I'm going to be really irked. I eat stuff from my garden, year round. A lot of people do.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:06 pm

Headline

Lead scientist says coronavirus vaccine could be ready soon

Article

Kizzmekia Corbett, the National Institute of Health's lead scientist for coronavirus vaccine research tells CNN's Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta that a vaccine for coronavirus could possibly be available to the general public by next spring

I'm sorry, but that is not soon. This summer is soon. THIS spring is very soon.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:08 pm

And that's typical. I don't know what peeps have been talking about, expecting a vaccine within 18 months.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:45 pm

May fuck up your nervous system, too.

This article isn't super convincing though.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:40 pm

GORDON wrote: I heard Michigan was shutting down plant nurseries...

Yep. Whitmer's executive order blocking people from selling/buying plants, lumber, paint, etc. Nobody really knows why.

Pretty sure lawn services aren't supposed to be running, which again, makes zero sense. That's a job that is super easy to ensure distance from others.

In other news...

1-2 days ago CNN had a headline story, literally their top story, mocking 30% of Americans who thought the cornoavirus was created in a lab.

Today:
U.S. Intelligence is investigating the possibility this came from a Chinese lab.

Three important notes on that though:
1. It being a bioweapon is NOT suspected.
2. The article really tries to paint a picture that Trump's folks are behind the push (Does Trump still have folks? U.S. Intelligence wouldn't waste their time if it was completely baseless.)
3. There's a link in that article pointing to warnings the U.S. had made previously about the lab there in Wuhan not maintaining the proper safety standards.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:05 pm

Leisher wrote: Whitmer's executive order blocking people from selling/buying plants, lumber, paint, etc. Nobody really knows why.

It's to keep people inside!! EVERY person that goes out and exposes themselves to others could result in another instance of spreading. Stay the fuck home!

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:01 pm

If we could have made people stop having sex outside of committed, monogamous relationships, we could have eliminated HIV in the 80s.

Post by **TheCatt** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:57 pm

remesvidir drug showing promise

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:14 pm

GORDON wrote: If we could have made people stop having sex outside of committed, monogamous relationships, we could have eliminated HIV in the 80s.

That is true. But people have to be stupid and Ryan White died.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:56 am

Ivermectin also. Can’t wait for governors to ban it because dogs need it.

And also to own trump.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:05 am

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN21Y2GB

The Navy’s testing of the entire 4,800-member crew of the aircraft carrier - which is about 94% complete - was an extraordinary move in a headline-grabbing case that has already led to the firing of the carrier’s captain and the resignation of the Navy’s top civilian official.

Roughly 60 percent of the over 600 sailors who tested positive so far have not shown symptoms of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus, the Navy says. The service did not speculate about how many might later develop symptoms or remain asymptomatic.

I've heard similar about the Diamond Princess. Lots of people testing positive, but fewer with symptoms. One key question is: how many DO develop symptoms later on?

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:45 pm

Some preliminary data from Bay Area shows much higher than expected antibody levels. Give varying estimates of ~2-4% of population having been exposed.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:25 pm

This is making me wonder if the really high R0 reported for the disease is wrong bc of all the "carriers" (people who test positive but aren't sick). I dunno nothing about how that works, but the high R0 was very scary. So if it's not really that bad, maybe we can end the lockdown.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:38 pm

thibodeaux wrote: This is making me wonder if the really high R0 reported for the disease is wrong bc of all the "carriers" (people who test positive but aren't sick). I dunno nothing about how that works, but the high R0 was very scary. So if it's not really that bad, maybe we can end the lockdown.

Or... is the R0 worse, because of all the unreported cases? Or, is it just as it was expected, because the silent carriers offset by the silent people who get it?

Oh, Florida...

Post by **GORDON** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:21 am

Obesity largest factor of hospitalization, after age.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/nyu-scien ... cal-cases/

Post by **TheCatt** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:54 pm

Post by **TheCatt** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:06 pm

https://gfycat.com/mediocretalkativecirriped.gif

Florida's governor showing how to put on a face mask.

Post by **TheCatt** » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:57 am

I was reading a digital magazine last name and came across this article from the start of the pandemic.

Fear is viral. While there have been only two cases of coronavirus in Spain—as opposed to 22 million flu illnesses leading to 12,000 deaths this season in the US alone, according to the CDC—snowballing hysteria over the possibility that a few people may get a flu-like illness, but not the flu, led to the cancellation of the biggest trade show in the mobile device world.

MWC has been my favorite week of the year since I started going in 2005. It's not just a place to see a bunch of new phones, it's a place to connect with everyone smart in the mobile industry, to learn from the best, and to get a grip on the trends that will define the upcoming year in mobile.

This cancellation is a huge loss. It's a huge loss for the industry, for innovation, and for 5G, and it isn't going to save any lives. The hysteria over the new Covid virus outside China appears to be the Shark Week of epidemiology—playing up a low-risk threat into screaming terror because it has a scary face, in this case, the face of China, newly terrifying enemy of all things Western.

The GSMA gave a weak statement saying that MWC will be back next year, but I don't see how the organization, the industry, and Barcelona will get over this hump. It's just too big a burn in terms of the millions of dollars wasted—not just the eight figures each dropped by giant exhibitors, but the big percentages of smaller companies' marketing budgets. Little of this will probably be recouped by insurance, as Spain has not declared any sort of emergency warranting the cancellation of the trade show. It was canceled merely through a snowball of panic.