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Postby Leisher » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:17 am

They publicly named the shooter if you want to find it. I still fully believe that is the wrong move. Stop giving them press.

Only 2 people killed, plus the suspect.

They have no motive yet. However, it's not hard to figure out. He was in town from Baltimore for the tournament. He's 24 and good at Madden, so he's got nothing else in his life. Clearly he probably got bounced and didn't handle it well.
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Postby Vince » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:42 pm

Leisher wrote:They have no motive yet. However, it's not hard to figure out. He was in town from Baltimore for the tournament. He's 24 and good at Madden, so he's got nothing else in his life. Clearly he probably got bounced and didn't handle it well.

I'm having trouble believing that he traveled all that way with a firearm and smuggled it in and was only going to use it if he lost the tournament. I really want to know what was going on with this guy. This seems to have been too well premeditated to hinge just on his game that day, at least to me. But who knows what motivates crazy people.
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Postby Leisher » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:39 pm

Vince wrote:Source of the post
Leisher wrote:They have no motive yet. However, it's not hard to figure out. He was in town from Baltimore for the tournament. He's 24 and good at Madden, so he's got nothing else in his life. Clearly he probably got bounced and didn't handle it well.

I'm having trouble believing that he traveled all that way with a firearm and smuggled it in and was only going to use it if he lost the tournament. I really want to know what was going on with this guy. This seems to have been too well premeditated to hinge just on his game that day, at least to me. But who knows what motivates crazy people.


I'm not saying he went there with the intention of using it. He probably had it in his car, got bounced from the tournament, was trash talked, and had other things going on to contribute to him losing his shit.

Madden was clearly this guy's life. That can't be healthy.
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Postby Vince » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:25 pm

Just saw that he'd been hospitalized for mental illness in the past. If it wasn't voluntary, then he was a prohibited possessor. We'll have to see how this shakes out.
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Postby Leisher » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:33 pm

Also, this was a prelim tourney, so if he was bounced, I believe that would have meant he couldn't move onto bigger tournaments and prizes. Someone mentally unstable might not handle that well.

Weird how all these mass shooters have mental issues. It's almost like we should be treating that or something...
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Postby GORDON » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:43 pm

As soon as it becomes easy to get someone committed, all y'all are going away for a good long time.

We can all get connecting rooms.
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Postby TheCatt » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:36 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post As soon as it becomes easy to get someone committed, all y'all are going away for a good long time.

We can all get connecting rooms.

As long as we get a place with lots of pills. and sex robots. and good VR
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Postby Leisher » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:25 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post
GORDON wrote:Source of the post As soon as it becomes easy to get someone committed, all y'all are going away for a good long time.

We can all get connecting rooms.

As long as we get a place with lots of pills. and sex robots. and good VR


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Postby TheCatt » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:27 pm

Leisher wrote:Source of the post
TheCatt wrote:Source of the post
GORDON wrote:Source of the post As soon as it becomes easy to get someone committed, all y'all are going away for a good long time.

We can all get connecting rooms.

As long as we get a place with lots of pills. and sex robots. and good VR


I'm in.

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Postby GORDON » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:41 pm

There's been a shitload of free government money in health care for at least 20 years.
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Postby Cakedaddy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:09 pm

Kathy Giffords (I think that's how you spell it) called it a massacre. My definition of a massacre was never "2". Or even the "4" someone originally speculated. I've never thought to put an actual number to it (ok, NOW it's a massacre). But 4 or less is not one.

Also, I saw a:
"We are the vocal majority! Vote away gun violence!"
Bumper sticker today. I honesty can't remember the last time I saw an anti-gun bumper sticker. Once I saw that, I started paying attention. I saw 5 pro-gun stickers the rest of the day. I counted the brand name stickers people use (Sig Sauer, GLOCK, etc), hello kitty with the AK47, etc. They weren't saying "I SUPPORT GUN VIOLENCE!" but obviously are anti that 'vocal majority' person. This study proves there are WAY more people that want guns than people who want to ban them.

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Postby GORDON » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:12 am

According to this STUDY by some group I never heard of, the USA has a lower than average rate of mass shootings, globally.

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/new-cprc-research-how-a-botched-study-fooled-the-world-about-the-u-s-share-of-mass-public-shootings-u-s-rate-is-lower-than-global-average/
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Postby TheCatt » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:39 pm

I'm suspicious of any organization that puts the western hemisphere on the right side of a map.

Good news, we still have 10x per capital people dying from mass shootings than Canada, and higher rates than all Western European countries, so we're still good.
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Postby Vince » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:04 pm

TheCatt wrote:Good news, we still have 10x per capital people dying from mass shootings than Canada, and higher rates than all Western European countries, so we're still good.

To be fair, there are only like... 3 places in Canada where enough people get together that there can even be a mass shooting.
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Postby Leisher » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:23 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Good news, we still have 10x per capital people dying from mass shootings than Canada, and higher rates than all Western European countries, so we're still good.


To be fair, nobody lives in Canada. Also, Western Europe leads us in terror attacks, public beheadings, and smugness.
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Postby GORDON » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:32 pm

I read somewhere that if you remove 3 cities from the data... Like Chicago, DC, and... St Louis? Then the USA has the lowest gun crime statistics per capital, in the world.
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Postby TheCatt » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:43 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post I read somewhere that if you remove 3 cities from the data... Like Chicago, DC, and... St Louis? Then the USA has the lowest gun crime statistics per capital, in the world.

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Postby Leisher » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:58 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post I read somewhere that if you remove 3 cities from the data... Like Chicago, DC, and... St Louis? Then the USA has the lowest gun crime statistics per capital, in the world.


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Postby TheCatt » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:01 pm

Leisher wrote:Source of the post
GORDON wrote:Source of the post I read somewhere that if you remove 3 cities from the data... Like Chicago, DC, and... St Louis? Then the USA has the lowest gun crime statistics per capital, in the world.


Ditto.

You will be STUNNED to learn that that statement is Not true.
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Postby Leisher » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:13 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post
Leisher wrote:Source of the post
GORDON wrote:Source of the post I read somewhere that if you remove 3 cities from the data... Like Chicago, DC, and... St Louis? Then the USA has the lowest gun crime statistics per capital, in the world.


Ditto.

You will be STUNNED to learn that that statement is Not true.


I would not be as it's a tough stat to believe. I mean, generally speaking, people are fucking lazy and guns make murder really effort free.

Although you might be STUNNED to hear that my trust level on Snopes has dropped considerably over the years.

Even the story you linked is sketchy. They jump all around from homicides to guns and back again. They also do not break out the types of homicides with guns like I have done here previously showing that accidental, by cop, etc. are part of those statistics.
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