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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:28 pm
by GORDON
College kids find themselves in a cabin in the woods, not all of them leave it alive.
Joss Whedon flick, and you know his shit is quirky.
Also, this movie ties together nearly every slasher and horror film ever made. Everything now happens in the same universe. This is like the Grand Horror Film of Unification.
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:29 pm
by Malcolm
I hear this flick is watchable in spite of Josh's trademark incompetency.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:30 pm
by GORDON
If you go in without spoilers, then you have no idea where it's going.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:39 pm
by Malcolm
Yes, I do. Wheedon was involved. The obvious answer is "downhill."
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:42 pm
by Leisher
I keep getting irritated that people like this film because I keep getting it confused with Cabin Fever. Cabin Fever being one of the worst movies ever made.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:45 pm
by Malcolm
The bit where the one dude turns out to be unaffected by the ... plot device ... if what Ellen Ripley says is at all accurate, it's a rather bullshit twist. I'm calling Joss the Rob Liefeld of screenwriting from now on.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:54 pm
by Leisher
I'm calling Joss the Rob Liefeld of screenwriting from now on.
I think I'm the only person on this forum that will get that, and it's hilarious.
I like Joss, but that's a great rip.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:32 am
by GORDON
It is interesting to watch the movie a second time, and be able to hear all the conversations again, in context.
Also there are scenes where you just want to freeze frame, to see all the stuff going on. I actually did that a couple times.
I think I saw Bruce Campbell.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:41 pm
by TheCatt
Leisher wrote:I'm calling Joss the Rob Liefeld of screenwriting from now on.
I think I'm the only person on this forum that will get that, and it's hilarious.
I like Joss, but that's a great rip.
Isn't he the guy you posted with the worst drawings ever or such?
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:45 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:Leisher wrote:I'm calling Joss the Rob Liefeld of screenwriting from now on.
I think I'm the only person on this forum that will get that, and it's hilarious.
I like Joss, but that's a great rip.
Isn't he the guy you posted with the worst drawings ever or such?
Yeah.
EDIT: He's still an acknowledged industry player and a fucking millionaire, it's just as mind-blowing as Joss seeing dollar one for the shit he pushes out.
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:42 pm
by Malcolm
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:59 pm
by GORDON
I like the tempo of the dialogue he writes, and I like his ability to skewer cliches.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:06 pm
by TheCatt
Dr horrible was pretty awesome.
And he did avengers, right?
So 2 for 2 in my world.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:37 pm
by GORDON
I think my fave Whedon moment... or perhaps it is just a perfect example of one... was in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer series, possibly season 1.
They are in a hell dimension. Children are enslaved, and will be doing hard labor for life. SOme sort of mine or something. Kids all over every level, in chains. All seems to be lost, the mood is grim. The bad guy is on a high ledge. He starts giving a speech, monologuing about how they have no hope for escape, they will be there until they die, and if they don't work hard they will wish they were dead. Then one of the enslaved little girls on the ledge next to him just pushes the bad guy off the ledge, killing him, the good guys win. The end.
A Whedon moment.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:24 pm
by TPRJones
Don't forget Firefly. He did that, too.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:05 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:They are in a hell dimension. Children are enslaved, and will be doing hard labor for life. SOme sort of mine or something. Kids all over every level, in chains. All seems to be lost, the mood is grim. The bad guy is on a high ledge. He starts giving a speech, monologuing about how they have no hope for escape, they will be there until they die, and if they don't work hard they will wish they were dead. Then one of the enslaved little girls on the ledge next to him just pushes the bad guy off the ledge, killing him, the good guys win. The end.
A Whedon moment.
That seems such bullshit to me. It's below lazy.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:06 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:Don't forget Firefly. He did that, too.
Fuck that shit up the ass with a herpes-infected dildo.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:11 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:GORDON wrote:They are in a hell dimension. Children are enslaved, and will be doing hard labor for life. SOme sort of mine or something. Kids all over every level, in chains. All seems to be lost, the mood is grim. The bad guy is on a high ledge. He starts giving a speech, monologuing about how they have no hope for escape, they will be there until they die, and if they don't work hard they will wish they were dead. Then one of the enslaved little girls on the ledge next to him just pushes the bad guy off the ledge, killing him, the good guys win. The end.
A Whedon moment.
That seems such bullshit to me. It's below lazy.
At the time, it was fresh. It hadn't been done before.... just chuck the fucking bad guy off the ledge. So obvious! But new.
He didn't get famous because he followed the crowd on that sort of thing.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:16 pm
by GORDON
*spoilers begin here*
Watched it a second time today.
The "Old Gods..." they are us, right? The stars of the film... the two guys in the control room... state more than once that everything is staged to placate the Old Gods. When the chick goes topless, they mention, "We aren't the only ones watching..." they also mean us.
And if we, the Old Gods, are not satisfied with the quality of the killings, and the established order of operations, then we rise up and destroy them.
This entire movie was a statement about the current horror movie genre, and the 2 fucking kids at the end letting it all get wiped is a statement that it is time to let other methods of horror have their shot.
Since this film was actually made in 2009, I assume they are talking about the found-footage style, or possibly torture porn like Hostel. The entire movie... every sacrifice failing... was saying that the old horror formula does not work on today's audience.
I sez.
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:34 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:At the time, it was fresh. It hadn't been done before.... just chuck the fucking bad guy off the ledge. So obvious! But new.
He didn't get famous because he followed the crowd on that sort of thing.
New != good.