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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:29 am
by Leisher
I think sometimes the language and cultural barriers are a bit too much to really "get" a film, and this is a prime example.

Ichi the Killer is considered a classic of Asian cinema, but I cannot figure out why. I guess people really dig the violence and cheesy blood spraying, but the story is terrible.

Actually, I read one person comparing it to Dead Alive, so I kind of get that due to the gore. There is one scene late involving Jijii that had me cracking up, but overall, there isn't a ton of humor in the film. Unless you think brutal mass murder is "dark comedy" somehow?

Anyo is a mob boss who gets killed, and his favorite henchman seeks revenge. That henchman is Kakihara who is a sadist, and loved his boss because of the pain Anyo inflicted upon him. Also in the mix is Anyo's loyal to a fault bodyguard (later his kid gets involved too). What really motivates Kakihara though is the thought of Anyo being killed by Ichi, who is a vicious killer, and whom Kakihara believes can give him pleasure through pain unlike anyone else. What nobody knows is that Ichi is being mind controlled by Jijii who is using Ichi to take out the Yakuza.

That is as deep as the plot gets. The problem is that everyone is motivated by events that are never described, shown, or even talked about. Why should I give a shit about any of these characters?

The movie also drags. Asian filmmakers could take a cue from their American counterparts and spend more time in the editing room. Way, way too many unnecessary scenes and shots.

One thing I do love about Asian cinema though is that they aren't afraid to use subtlety where American filmmakers bash you over the head with little jokes. There's a scene late in the film that's actually funny even though it involves two people dying. In fact, it involves brothers, but it's funny because of their relationship, and because of a comment that is made by one of the brothers about as close to off camera and in the background as one can get. This is followed up by his death, and the punchline.

I think this is probably worth seeing once for those of you who liked Dead Alive or are exploring Asian cinema, like a few of us seem to be doing (Yay Netflix!).

5 out of 10.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:43 am
by GORDON
Is this the same film as the one on Netflix called "Ichi?" I think it has a blind girl.

Was going to watch that soon.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:02 am
by Leisher
Nope, different film.

I noticed that blind girl film too when I was searching for Ichi the Killer.

I've got some more on my list I'll be viewing soon too.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:24 pm
by Malcolm
I actually enjoyed this film. The violence is so over the top, it's hilarious.

If you want to see a more interesting Asian action flick, check this.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:57 pm
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:If you want to see a more interesting Asian action flick, check this.
Not available for streaming.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:32 pm
by Malcolm
Well, that's a bitch. Don't suppose you actually use the mail for their DVDs anymore?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:23 pm
by GORDON
No, never did.

It'll get on there eventually, probably.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:10 pm
by GORDON
Started watching Ichi the Killer on Netflix.

I got past the semen dripping from the potted plant, the dude hanging from hooks having boiling oil poured on him, and half way through the scene where the tongue is getting cut off. That's where I turned it off.

Is the entire movie like this?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:57 pm
by Malcolm
No, it gets a bit more over-the-top.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:20 am
by GORDON
The way you guys were describing it I thought it was "over the top" like Kill Bill, but this is just a gross-out movie.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:09 am
by Leisher
I believe the blood spurting in Kill Bill is a nod to this movie. I know Ichi is represented somewhere in Kill Bill.

Did you see Dead Alive? That's Peter Jackson's first film. That's a gross out movie, and I don't think Ichi comes close to that, but yeah, it's gross.

And if you make it to the end, it gets weird. The scene with Jijii when he reveals his "true self" is so damn funny though.

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:14 am
by GORDON
As of this moment I don't intend to finish it. Too much other stuff to watch that isn't just gross to be gross.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:46 am
by Malcolm
The scene with Jijii when he reveals his "true self" is so damn funny though.

I lifted my forty to that one.