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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:29 pm
by GORDON
This is a flick that somehow I never saw until now...
What the fuck?
I like symbolism and metaphor as much as the next guy, but this was beyond beyond.
I think I remember a Gilliam interview saying something like, "Time Bandits is about youth, Brazil is about being middle aged, and Baron Munchhausen was about being old."
But I don't know, whatever. Hate to say it, but I didn't get it. AT least TB and BM had a coherent story to go along with all the imagery.
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:44 pm
by TheCatt
Yeah... Brazil gets.... lost somewhere in the middle.
Or I stopped caring, I can't remember which.
It's been a long, long time since I've seen it, but that's all I remember.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:56 pm
by GORDON
Ducts everywhere and out of control bureaucracy... that seemed to be the major themes.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:38 pm
by Paul
What a coincidence. I recorded it last month and started watching it for the first time last night around 11:00.
I stopped mid-way through, when the protagonist rescues the girl from the cops with his badge.
It hasn't really caught my interest so far.
Does it get better, or should I just delete it instead of continuing it some other time?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:44 pm
by GORDON
Are you the type who can drop a movie half-way and not have the unfinished ending bugging you for the rest of your life?
If so, drop it.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:50 pm
by Paul
I can drop it. Ditto with books (like Kujo and Jaws).
I don't think I'm physically able to do it in a movie theater though.
Just more of the same-same in Brazil?
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:40 pm
by TheCatt
Paul wrote:I can drop it. Ditto with books (like Kujo and Jaws).
I don't think I'm physically able to do it in a movie theater though.
Just more of the same-same in Brazil?
I made it through 80 pages of The Shining, then said "this is boring as fuck." Although, I saw the movie and the Simpsons Halloween ep take-off, so I guess I know how it ends.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:49 pm
by Malcolm
If you see "Brazil," try to check out the non-TV cut (NOT the Sheinberg cut) of the film. There's various differences in the U.S. & U.K. versions. The film got so fucked up in editing. That wouldn't be so bad, except it's hard enough to make sense out of it as it is. It's a flick that you gotta actively confront & hunt down. & by that I mean you need to get the American & British versions, try to puzzle out the differences, then make a conclusion based on those. Then, watch the Sheinberg version & see how fucked it got. Gilliam liked the Sheinberg cut only cos it showed how studios can turn films into shit.
The American cut was personally supervised & done by Terry. Seeing the studio cut of "Brazil" is like seeing the studio cut of "Blade Runner."
But, any way you look at it, the flick is one hell of an acid trip. After the semester's over, I plan to catch up on the 'Flix queue. I'll hopefully remember to bump this up the list & see what I can gather from it. I ain't seen it in so many years. Even when I did see it, I wasn't in any state of mind to remember it well at all.
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:17 pm
by GORDON
Paul wrote:Just more of the same-same in Brazil?
It doesn't get any more coherent after the midway point, no.
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:39 pm
by Paul
I saw the Showtime version from when I got a free preview of Showtime. Or maybe it was Cinemax. I don't know.
I assume it's unedited.
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:14 pm
by Malcolm
Paul wrote:I saw the Showtime version from when I got a free preview of Showtime. Or maybe it was Cinemax. I don't know.
I assume it's unedited.
The two "real" edits are the British & American edits. The British version has about ten minutes of extra footage. The American one is the one Terry did. So, I suppose that either one of those constitutes "unedited" in the studio sense.
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:54 pm
by Paul
I deleted it.
Alas, the time for me caring about the movie has ended.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:41 pm
by Malcolm
Finally got around to watching this on Netflix. Still good.