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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:29 am
by GORDON
Was on HBO-HD so I watched it again, first time in at least a decade.
This was a great flick for Vincent Price to end on. I hope that Tim Burton appreciated how relevant it was that he got to work with the guy that influenced his own career so profoundly. I'd go so far as to suggest Burton would never have had an audience at all if not for Price.
So... is this movie about what a nightmare suburbia is, or what? Edward looked like a monster but was the only thing that brought beauty into their neighborhood, and they all ended up turning on him and lusting for his blood.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:12 pm
by Malcolm
It's a heavy-handed flick. Subtlety has never been one of Tim's strong points.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:53 pm
by thibodeaux
I guess I didn't get it when I watched it. Thought it was stupid, in fact.
And why do people hate on suburbia so bad? It's a better place to live than 99+% of the rest of the world. Only teenagers and whiny liberals hate suburbia, and only the teenagers have to live there. Why do the whiny liberals feel like they need to beat up on it? Get a life!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:04 pm
by Leisher
All you need to know about Burton can be found in the director's commentary of his Planet of the Apes:
"I have no idea what this ending means. Let the director of the sequel figure that out."
Some of his movies are good, some are downright terrible. He's too inconsistent.
Plus if you take his quote above into account, along with his proposed Superman ideas, I'd say he's a fucking idiot as well.
Stick him in his genre "dark, moody, cartoony worlds" and he's awesome. Anywhere else and he's one of the worst in the business.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:35 pm
by Malcolm
Suburbia is boring.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:04 pm
by TheCatt
Yeah, what Malcolm said.
I'm very much OK with that now. But it was boring as a teen.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:13 pm
by GORDON
What a tragedy, to be bored.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:29 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:What a tragedy, to be bored.
It is.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:32 pm
by thibodeaux
I'm just saying, the people who complain about how AWFUL suburbia is strike me as the same morons who think that Catcher in the Rye is just the best book EVAR. You know, and those suburbanites are so PHONY. Because having a yard and a garage is just SOO boring and plastic.
Besides, what's boring about suburbia? Like teenagers do anything besides play video games. My subdivision has a park with slides and swings and stuff for the kiddies and a big field for playing soccer or whatever. There are two swimming pools and tennis courts. Hell, there are even some yahoos who ride dirt bikes around the woods. There's a golf driving range within walking distance. Libraries, shopping malls, game rooms, and restaurants are all within 15 minutes drive or less.
You know what we had within 15 miles of my house? NOTHING! Not a goddam thing. The kids in my current neighborhood are living like KINGS compared to how I grew up. They're bored? Well FUCK THEM. They're not trying hard enough.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:47 pm
by Leisher
A common saying among military folks is "A place is what you make of it."
So if suburbia was boring...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:45 pm
by GORDON
thibodeaux wrote:You know what we had within 15 miles of my house? NOTHING! Not a goddam thing. The kids in my current neighborhood are living like KINGS compared to how I grew up. They're bored? Well FUCK THEM. They're not trying hard enough.
All we had to play on was a set of railroad tracks.
And they were awesome...
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:07 pm
by TheCatt
I've always wanted to explore places.
There's nothing to explore in suburbia. Seriously, being 14-15 yo in suburbia is boring.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:53 pm
by thibodeaux
TheCatt wrote:There's nothing to explore in suburbia. Seriously, being 14-15 yo in suburbia is boring.
Seriously, try being 14-15 in the middle of nowhere. At least in suburbia there are OTHER PEOPLE you can hang with.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:25 pm
by TheCatt
thibodeaux wrote:TheCatt wrote:There's nothing to explore in suburbia. Seriously, being 14-15 yo in suburbia is boring.
Seriously, try being 14-15 in the middle of nowhere. At least in suburbia there are OTHER PEOPLE you can hang with.
Other bored people.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:27 pm
by Leisher
What's downtown that isn't in suburbia?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:27 pm
by TheCatt
it's no wonder all the young teens have the oral sex these days
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:42 pm
by Malcolm
Leisher wrote:What's downtown that isn't in suburbia?
Collections of civilizations not called subdivisions.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:59 pm
by thibodeaux
Malcolm wrote:Collections of civilizations not called subdivisions.
Translation: crack whores.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:47 pm
by Leisher
There really isn't anything downtown that you can't find in the suburbs. Things are simply spread out more in the suburbs.
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:52 pm
by Malcolm
The more spread out things are, the less things you can pack into a walkable/drivable radius.