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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 1:33 pm
by Malcolm
Help you quit, says Brits.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:19 pm
by TheCatt
I dunno, I used the patch to quit successfully at least 3 times.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:27 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:I dunno, I used the patch to quit successfully at least 3 times.
I'm still trying to figure why the e-ciggies get such backlash given they're cutting down on a fuckload of burned organic matter you'd otherwise be inhaling.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:38 pm
by TPRJones
Indeed. The output is just water vapor and a dash of glycerin for effect. Second hand smoke from an e-cig is cleaner than the air in a major city.
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:55 pm
by Malcolm
THIS is what Congress does for a living. It's their job, day in and day out, to push legislation that doesn't actually change shit but just gets them reelected.
Senator Jay Rockefeller (D- West Virginia) ... “I’m ashamed of you. I don’t know how you go to sleep at night. I don’t know what gets you to work in the morning except the color green of dollars. You are what is wrong with this country.”
I feel the same way about each and every member of Congress, Jay. Thanks for doing this shit instead of real work.
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:27 pm
by Malcolm
Some Senators referred to a website sponsored by blu’s parent company, Lorillard, stating that flavors like “cherry” and “vanilla” make children vulnerable to electronic cigarettes.
As further proof Congress's job is getting reelected instead of doing anything -- booze kills more people than tobacco. I don't see any Congressman taking Smirnoff importers to task for ...
Smirnoff Fluffed Marshmallow. Marshmallow-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Iced Cake. Cake-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Kissed Caramel. Caramel-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Whipped Cream. Whipped cream-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Root Beer Float. Root beer float-flavored vodka, 30% ABV.
Smirnoff Cinna-Sugar Twist cinnamon-infused vodka.
Those are some adult flavours that are clearly not marketed towards children.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:30 pm
by Malcolm
New Jersey set to join list of other dumb-asses.
New Jersey could become the only state in the country to prevent anyone under the age of 21 from purchasing tobacco products under a measure passed Monday by the state Senate.
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:17 pm
by Malcolm
Malcolm wrote:TheCatt wrote:I dunno, I used the patch to quit successfully at least 3 times.
I'm still trying to figure why the e-ciggies get such backlash given they're cutting down on a fuckload of burned organic matter you'd otherwise be inhaling.
Deceptive article proves Malcolm right.
Electronic cigarettes emit chromium — which isn't in regular cigarettes — and four times the amount of nickel as regular cigarettes. The researchers also found other toxic metals in the e-cigarette smoke, like lead and zinc, but the amounts were smaller than those in regular cigarettes.
There were, however, 10 times fewer harmful particles and almost no cancer-causing organic compounds in secondhand e-cigarette smoke, because electronic cigarettes don't burn organic material like traditional cigarettes do.
Emphasis mine. Well damn, weird metals. Not a fucking thing you can do about that ...
He said the metals probably come from electronic cigarettes' cartridges, meaning that better production could reduce them going forward.
Goddamn. Someone should really come up with something better. It's almost as if there's an industry already in place that sells better hardware than e-cigs, which are like the George Costanzas of vaporizers.
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:48 pm
by Malcolm
Teen e-ciggie use overtakes traditional ciggies. And people are still bitching about it.
"I worry that the tremendous progress that we've made over the last almost two decades in smoking could be reversed on us by the introduction of e-cigarettes," said University of Michigan professor Lloyd Johnston, who leads the annual Monitoring the Future survey of more than 41,000 students.
The CDC reported last week that 10 states permit the sale of e-cigarettes to minors.
That's kind of stupid. Regulate the nicotine liquid, dumb-ass. Fuck the vape pens.
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:38 pm
by Malcolm
States getting ready to fuel the black market e-ciggie market.
"The key is to avoid another generation being addicted to nicotine," Indiana Attorney General Greg Zoeller said in an interview.
Actually, Greg, fuck you for changing your shallow, flippity-flopping anti-tobacco stance. The rallying cry used to be around all the toxic shit in the ciggie being inhaled. The nicotine bullshit only came out after the e-ciggies. Go whore yourself out for votes some other way, you fucking tool.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:51 pm
by Malcolm
E-ciggie critics can eat a dick. Conclusions:
1) they help people quit smoking normal ciggies
2) they have 95% less of the shitty chems normal ciggies have
3) they don't encourage use of normal ciggies
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:29 pm
by Malcolm
Do they?
But Anderson says that vapor still contains dangerous chemicals.
Tobacco plus heat (without combustion) produces exactly what dangerous chems? Name them. Here's a list of the almost 600 chems you avoid when you use a e-cig + tobacco/liquid nicotine.
The study funded by the National Cancer Institute found that nearly 40 percent of young people who started using e-cigarettes moved on to regular cigarettes within a year.
Do you know why? Because e-ciggies tend to be clunky to use, not manufactured to consistent standards, stigmatized unjustly, and a pain to clean. Ciggies are flame and forget. Patches aren't a good substitute, either.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:48 pm
by TPRJones
Most of the shortcomings of ecigs are changing pretty quickly. The state of the art is rapidly evolving.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:52 pm
by Malcolm
TPRJones wrote:Most of the shortcomings of ecigs are changing pretty quickly. The state of the art is rapidly evolving.
I may have to take a trip to Denver one day for a decent vape pen.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:40 pm
by Malcolm
It smells fruity, tastes fruity, comes in packaging with colours obviously intended to entice minors, and has quite a bit of intoxicant firepower, commonly leading to ODs on small amounts. What is this substance that must be banned for the sake of all children?
Hand sanitizer. Curiously, they aren't getting the same sort of heat as liquid nicotine manufacturers.
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:58 pm
by Malcolm
The march of hypocrisy goes on.
Title: Candy-Flavored E-Cigarette Ads Appeal to Young: Study
Second paragraph: However, the ads don't increase the overall appeal to kids of either smoking traditional tobacco cigarettes or using e-cigarettes regularly, the researchers reported.
Christ, mislead much?
"We know that flavors appeal to kids, and that is what the e-cigarette industry is banking on," Sward said. "Kids like sweet flavors. That is why there are sugar-sweetened cereals. These flavors have always appealed to a kid's palate."

That's what mature drinkers want, more cake in their fucking vodka.
"It doesn't get much more blatant," Douglas said. "It's quite clearly targeted at kids."

These must be marketed to middle aged housewives as an alternative to red wine.
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Re: e-cigarettes
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:40 pm
by Malcolm
Subject to same laws as normal tobacco.
Re: e-cigarettes
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:50 pm
by TPRJones
That's fine ... mostly.
If they extend that "no flavored cigarettes" bullshit to e-cigs that would be ... more bullshit.
Re: e-cigarettes
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:13 pm
by Malcolm
Hah. Surprising responses to survey.
The main results:
A total of 3,837 students reported some vaping experience (34%, 32%, and 21% of 12th, 10th, and eighth graders, respectively);
Between 65% and 66% of students in each grade reported vaping "just flavoring" the last time they vaped; and
Of the students who had used a vape product in the past month (16% of 12th graders, 14% of 10th graders, and 8% of eighth graders), 59% to 63% reported vaping "just flavoring" at last use.
"Vaping of nicotine came in a distant second place," the researchers wrote. "Among respondents who had ever vaped, about 20% of 12th- and 10th-grade students and 13% of eighth-grade students reported vaping nicotine at last use."
Re: e-cigarettes
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:24 pm
by GORDON
I heard the "Strawberry Cough" flavor was pretty popular.