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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:34 pm
by Malcolm
Found.
While the pages are dated between the years 568 AD and 645 AD, though, Muhammad is generally believed to have lived between 570 AD and 632 AD. This means that that pages actually pre-date the man known as "The Prophet."
"It destabilizes, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Koran emerged," said Tom Holland, a historian, in an interview with Birmingham Mail. "That in turn has implications for the historicity of Muhammad and the Companions (his followers)."
Granted, you're only talking a few years here, but it means there's no way in hell it was written more than a handful of years after his death. The first books of the New Testament waited at least 70 years after Jesus's death before they started poking up.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:18 pm
by Leisher
Everyone involved in this discovery will be murdered.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:30 am
by Alhazad
Leisher wrote:Everyone involved in this discovery will be murdered.
Oxygen poisoning strikes again.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:19 am
by Leisher
Or it will be completely ignored like how the Morons ignored it when science disproved their tablets or plate or whatever.
Oxygen poisoning strikes again.
Also, was that a shot at or support for my comment? I honestly read it both ways.
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:29 am
by GORDON
Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith, and this discovery suggests Muhammad plagiarized shit. I think, I only skimmed. I'm sure Catt will correct me if I am wrong.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:58 am
by Malcolm
Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith, and this discovery suggests Muhammad plagiarized shit.
I'll check on the Mormon prime directive but to the other point, if this qualifies as plagiarism then every major religion is stolen.
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:18 am
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith, and this discovery suggests Muhammad plagiarized shit. I think, I only skimmed. I'm sure Catt will correct me if I am wrong.
Do you even read, bro?
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:14 pm
by Alhazad
Leisher wrote:was that a shot at or support for my comment? I honestly read it both ways.
It was purposefully vague. I didn't agree, though. A few ripples as the Muslim world prepares to ignore it forever seem much more likely.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:50 pm
by Leisher
Alhazad wrote:Leisher wrote:was that a shot at or support for my comment? I honestly read it both ways.
It was purposefully vague. I didn't agree, though. A few ripples as the Muslim world prepares to ignore it forever seem much more likely.
Was it the peaceful and tolerant way Muslims have responded to slights against their religion in the past that gave you pause?
I don't even need to do the "every other word is a link" thing to back up my point.
I mean, ISIS is currently destroying every bit of history they can get their hands on and murdering historians.
While my statement was meant as humor, it would not shock me if something bad happens to the men/women behind that report.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:58 pm
by Alhazad
Leisher wrote:I mean, ISIS is currently destroying every bit of history they can get their hands on and murdering historians.
Right. The crazies are already busy, and the normals don't and never will care.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:00 pm
by GORDON
Alhazad wrote:Leisher wrote:I mean, ISIS is currently destroying every bit of history they can get their hands on and murdering historians.
Right. The crazies are already busy, and the normals don't and never will care.
Our government is unwilling to do what has to be done to fix it, so why bother caring? Waste of energy.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:03 am
by Paul
GORDON wrote:Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith...
Yeah they kill for other reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:51 am
by GORDON
Yeah and 500 years ago muslims invented math or something.