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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:15 pm
by thibodeaux
I was listening to NPR today, and they had a piece on it. It sounds like the diplomatic hoohaw was just somebody writing down stuff we already knew: such and such politician was arrogant, another one was uncreative. Berlusconi is a party-animal, Russia is a mafia-state---this is news? Big whoop.
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:05 pm
by TheCatt
From what I've heard, it's more than that, including names of foreign contacts, ways in which our diplomats are spies, etc.
I sure hope the "assassinate leader of wikileaks" document was in the list with a spoiler tag.
And the Army dude should be hung.
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:37 pm
by WSGrundy
They only thing I have seen that I was like "whoa" was the Saudi King trying to talk the U.S. into bombing Iran.
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:45 pm
by thibodeaux
TheCatt wrote:From what I've heard, it's more than that, including names of foreign contacts, ways in which our diplomats are spies, etc.
Well, you know NPR's #1 concern is always what foreign muckety-mucks think of America. So that was their angle.
But anyway, aren't all diplomats pretty much spies, and doesn't everybody know and assume that?
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:21 pm
by TheCatt
thibodeaux wrote:TheCatt wrote:From what I've heard, it's more than that, including names of foreign contacts, ways in which our diplomats are spies, etc.
Well, you know NPR's #1 concern is always what foreign muckety-mucks think of America. So that was their angle.
But anyway, aren't all diplomats pretty much spies, and doesn't everybody know and assume that?
Well, it was certainly that way in Civilization 2, so I guess so.
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:18 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:thibodeaux wrote:TheCatt wrote:From what I've heard, it's more than that, including names of foreign contacts, ways in which our diplomats are spies, etc.
Well, you know NPR's #1 concern is always what foreign muckety-mucks think of America. So that was their angle.
But anyway, aren't all diplomats pretty much spies, and doesn't everybody know and assume that?
Well, it was certainly that way in Civilization 2, so I guess so.
Damn, I ain't thought about that tactic in years. Drop off about three or four transports full of diplomats/spies and wreak absolute havoc on a few cites.
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:54 am
by TheCatt
International response.
Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, a long-time US critic, praised Assange while Ecuador even offered the 39-year-old sanctuary.
"We are going to invite him to come to Ecuador so he can freely present the information he possesses and all the documentation, not just over the Internet but in a variety of public forums," Kintto Lucas, Ecuador's deputy foreign minister, told the Internet site Ecuadorinmediato.
An international arrest warrant was issued in mid-November for Assange on suspicion of rape and sexual molestation of two women in Sweden.
Chavez praised Assange for his courage and said Clinton should resign over the revelations in the leaks.
"The empire stands naked... Mrs Clinton should resign," Chavez said in a speech, using his favourite description of the United States. "It's the least you can do: resign, along with those other delinquents working in the State Department."
China urged the US to get a grip on issues related to the leaking of the secret diplomatic cables.
"We hope the US side will properly handle relevant issues," foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said when asked about the leaks.
Governments that actually have something to hide (Venezuela) praise the guy.
But I like the Chinese response. I can only assume there's an undertone of ("Why can't your CIA kill these people?")
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:09 pm
by Malcolm
TheCatt wrote:But I like the Chinese response. I can only assume there's an undertone of ("Why can't your CIA kill these people?")
We're too busy trying to track teenage African immigrants with no real explosives or means to obtain/make any.