The Odyssey (2026)

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Christopher Nolan's latest is causing some controversy over casting.
1. Elliot Page is rumored to be playing Achilles. I put a tweet of what that will look like below the trailer.
2. Lupita Nyong'o has been officially confirmed to play Helen of Troy—and her sister, Clytemnestra. Helen of Troy was described as the "most beautiful woman in the world". She's also Greek. No offense to Lupita, but her face isn't launching 1000 ships and no Greek has ever had anything close to her skin tone.
3. Nolan was adamant that the score not use an orchestra because they didn't exist at the time, and he wanted realism. (Insert the "Really?" Negan meme...) However, he cast Travis Scott (who got people killed in real life) as a bard in the film because:
“I cast him because I wanted to nod towards the idea that this story has been handed down as oral poetry, which is analogous to rap," Nolan said.
BTW, these casting choices had been mostly hidden. I'm sure they were done before the opinions of society started changing, but even at peak wokeness, the first two choices are bewildering.

I don't think these controversies will be enough to sink the film because A) Nolan B) The Odyssey C) All the other big name stars. However, it will be interesting if it gets blamed if the box office isn't as big as hoped.



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Leisher wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 11:46 am Lupita Nyong'o has been officially confirmed to play Helen of Troy—and her sister, Clytemnestra. Helen of Troy was described as the "most beautiful woman in the world".
They have Zendaya RIGHT THERE IN THE FILM.
Leisher wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 11:46 am Elliot Page is rumored to be playing Achilles. I put a tweet of what that will look like below the trailer.
You know Achilles is dead in the Odyssey, right? This isn't the Iliad. Achilles is notably a shell of his former self in the underworld.
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TheCatt wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 12:15 pm They have Zendaya RIGHT THERE IN THE FILM.
I wonder if that would have made the internet more of less pissed? I would have enjoyed it. Again, no offense to Lupita, but Zendaya is way better looking.
TheCatt wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 12:15 pm You know Achilles is dead in the Odyssey, right? This isn't the Iliad. Achilles is notably a shell of his former self in the underworld.
That's a good point. Perhaps Nolan is playing that up, but Google says he was still physically imposing:
In The Odyssey, Achilles is depicted as a legendary, towering figure, known as the "fleet-footed" and greatest warrior among the Greeks. Appearing in the Underworld, he is characterized by his former golden/blonde hair, extreme physical prowess, and immense beauty, often linked to an imposing, lion-like appearance
BTW, I'm not offended about Nolan's thinking about why he cast Travis Scott, I just think he could have found a better human being.

Oh, and the scene with the giants (might not be in the linked trailer) is being mocked because of their armor and Nolan's insistence upon realism. I'm not an armor person, but apparently there's something wrong with what the giants wear?
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Leisher wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 12:30 pm Perhaps Nolan is playing that up, but Google says he was still physically imposing:
Fair, it's been a loooooooooooong time since I've read it.
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Me too. I'm pretty sure high school was the only time I went through them.
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Leisher wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 3:13 pm Me too. I'm pretty sure high school was the only time I went through them.
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FYI, saw a video discussing this controversy tonight and heard a pretty good explanation for the casting: The Oscars.

The Academy's new rules say you must have DEI bullshit in your film or it will not be considered for an Oscar. Not sure there's a better example of how Hollywood prefers pushing agendas over reality?

No proof that that is 100% the reason for the castings, but it is logical.
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This started at 98% on RT from a very cultivated selection of critics. That broke the RT record. It has since only dropped to 96%.

Although, Rotten Tomatoes is to studios as ESPN is to the SEC.

Of the reviews I've seen from people I trust:
1 called it awesome and a must see (mentioned the controversial castings were maybe 12 minutes of total screen time and were more cameos)
1 said it was unbelievably boring and Nolan's worst film (did not discuss any of the controversies)
1 said it was well acted and made, but is a terrible take on the source material
1 said it was garbage (mentioned the Elliot Page scene took him completely out of the film)

I think the Page thing is fair criticism. Like it or not, Elliot is known for something else now. Their acting career is basically over as audiences will only be able to see their off screen persona. Picture Donald Trump being cast in the same role. He could do a Brando-esque performance, but nobody would see him as anything other than Donald Trump.

I also saw a review from a non-film person, but a historian type with deep knowledge of the source material and time period. He didn't discuss any of the controversies and absolutely shredded the film. This was the most interesting review. He was all about the costume design, set pieces, and so on. That shiny steel armor in the one scene really has pissed a lot of people off. Reminds me of how pissed comic fans get when details get changed.
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Leisher wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 1:00 pm He could do a Brando-esque performance
No, he could not :)
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Sir! Was Brando not grotesquely fat at the end?!
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Leisher wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2026 6:31 pm Sir! Was Brando not grotesquely fat at the end?!
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My wife: did you know they took ALL the sex out of it?

His 7 years with Calypso, his year with Circe.

Wife doesn't want to see it any more
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https://archive.is/skGm6. <-- My wife is right.
Of all of the historical inaccuracies you could grouse about in the new Odyssey movie, the most mystifying is the lack of sex. The Odysseus of Homer’s epic poem was laying pipe nightly on an island, while a sea away, his wife, Penelope, was fending off drunk suitors who would go off to have quickies with the servants. In Christopher Nolan’s modern adaptation, no one gets so much as a boner.
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