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Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:49 pm**

Yahoo implies teachers are becoming prostitutes to supplement their income.

Seriously, fuck Yahoo for that sort of misleading headline.

But seriously, we pay our teachers WAY too little.

Most parents have no concept of how teachers accomplish their jobs. They don't realize teachers use THEIR OWN MONEY to purchase needed things for their classrooms. They don't understand how many hours a teacher's day actually lasts. They have no clue how fucked most schools are when it comes to funding.

Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:00 pm**

IMO, sugar daddy/baby relationships are prostitution.

But, I also consider an actress who will suck weinstein's cock for a movie role to also be a prostitute, so my opinion may be a little extreme.

Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:53 pm**

Leisher wrote: Seriously, fuck Yahoo for that sort of misleading headline

I am unclear what is misleading from the headline?

Teachers are turning to 'sugar daddy' dating site to supplement their salary

GORDON wrote: IMO, sugar daddy/baby relationships are prostitution.

It's gray, but I also don't care if people are prostitutes.

Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:02 pm**

Leisher wrote: But seriously, we pay our teachers WAY too little.

First of all, my mother, two aunts, and two grandparents were public school teachers. No, it's not always an easy job taking care of other peoples' genetic mistakes. That said...

My kids are in 8th and 9th grade. They have never been taught how to write (or read) cursive. They have not been taught proper English grammar. They have not been taught how to spell. And this is one of the top schools in one of the top districts in the state!

But by God, they learn all about the Holocaust, Slavery, and Civil Rights. EVERY. GOD. DAMN. YEAR.

Screw the teachers (no pun intended). Teachers are the bottom-end of the intellectual bell curve. They are ignorant---they routinely commit spelling and grammar errors in the stuff they write. They are Social Justice Warrior shitlibs. Not only that, they are suckers. The school system is funded to RIDICULOUS levels, and it's all wasted, on administrators. Sorry teachers. Go beg your 6-figure salaried school-system diversity officers for some money.

Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:09 pm**

thibodeaux wrote: They have never been taught how to write (or read) cursive.

Thank God.

thibodeaux wrote: They have not been taught proper English grammar.

Do people not diagram sentences any more in middle school? I hated it, but it was useful.

thibodeaux wrote: Screw the teachers (no pun intended). Teachers are the bottom-end of the intellectual bell curve. They are ignorant---they routinely commit spelling and grammar errors in the stuff they write. They are Social Justice Warrior shitlibs. Not only that, they are suckers. The school system is funded to RIDICULOUS levels, and it's all wasted, on administrators. Sorry teachers. Go beg your 6-figure salaried school-system diversity officers for some money.

I'm skeptical. On the other hand, our superintendent should not be bringing home $300k for such a shitty execution of her job.

The good private schools where we live are $25k/year. It looks like our County + NC together spend $12k, and that includes transportation, which private schools do not provide.

Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:09 pm**

Teachers are uneven, but most of our daughters' teachers have been good. Some have been great, only 1 has been "Bad"

Posted: **Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:44 pm**

TheCatt wrote:
GORDON wrote: IMO, sugar daddy/baby relationships are prostitution.
It's gray, but I also don't care if people are prostitutes.

I don't care either. But I'm not going to dance around the idea that it's sex in exchange for money or favors.

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:17 am**

TheCatt wrote: I am unclear what is misleading from the headline?

Because of the implication that it's a widespread problem. It's a click bait headline.

TheCatt wrote: I also don't care if people are prostitutes.

Total agreement.

thibodeaux wrote: My kids are in 8th and 9th grade. They have never been taught how to write (or read) cursive. They have not been taught proper English grammar. They have not been taught how to spell. And this is one of the top schools in one of the top districts in the state!

This is true, but it's more about what the government is dictating the kids need to learn. Honestly, people should be fucking outraged by how the quality of our education has decreased in the past 20 years.

thibodeaux wrote: Screw the teachers (no pun intended). Teachers are the bottom-end of the intellectual bell curve. They are ignorant---they routinely commit spelling and grammar errors in the stuff they write. They are Social Justice Warrior shitlibs. Not only that, they are suckers. The school system is funded to RIDICULOUS levels, and it's all wasted, on administrators. Sorry teachers. Go beg your 6-figure salaried school-system diversity officers for some money.

There's a lot of truth here.

GORDON wrote: I don't care either. But I'm not going to dance around the idea that it's sex in exchange for money or favors.

This really isn't wrong. If you're getting paid with the expectation that you will perform sexual favors, what is the difference between a street walker, an escort, a porn star, and a sugar baby? Or even a gold digging kept woman?

You know what makes a wife different from those women? She has access to your money even when you're not having sex.

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:29 am**

Leisher wrote: Because of the implication that it's a widespread problem. It's a click bait headline.

I feels it's vague. "Teachers" is unqualified, so there's no implication of "most" or "many," but the article does say, iirc, thousands of teachers.

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:36 pm**

TheCatt wrote: thousands of teachers.

And I would very much like them to cite their sources. Not just sugar babies who list their occupations as teacher, but also those who say they have to do it to make ends meet. Women who want freebies that also happen to be teachers don't count.

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:44 pm**

Leisher wrote: And I would very much like them to cite their sources.

They did

But now, SeekingArrangement offers an alternative that has more than 10,000 teachers (according to the site) cashing in out of necessity.

Leisher wrote: Not just sugar babies who list their occupations as teacher, but also those who say they have to do it to make ends meet. Women who want freebies that also happen to be teachers don't count.

Impossible to know.

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:51 pm**

TheCatt wrote: Impossible to know.

And that's the point. Also, who the fuck knows if SeekingArrangement is lying or if their applicants are?

Posted: **Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:53 pm**

How DARE YOU question the integrity of SeekingArrangment.

~Greta

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:32 pm**

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publica ... eacher-pay

One of the most common beliefs about American education is that teaching is an "underpaid" profession...[but] teachers as a group are generally well compensated, and teacher pay and benefits have risen faster over time than compensation in private-sector jobs. Failure to recognize these facts can lead education reform down a blind alley.
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Finally, an inordinate focus on teacher salaries feeds unrealistic expectations for the profession. Although teacher quality certainly matters, most of the variance in student achievement is associated with factors outside the classroom.
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teachers (the black dots on the chart) receive a salary premium of 9% once their shorter work year is accounted for
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if teachers were underpaid, a large proportion might leave the profession because of low pay. But in fact, teachers quit their jobs at much lower rates than private-sector workers do. If quit rates are signals of an occupation's relative attractiveness, then teaching is far more attractive than most private-sector jobs.
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Unfortunately, paying more for teachers in hard-to-staff subject areas is not something that most districts can do. Union contracts generally mandate that gym teachers must be paid the same as calculus teachers, with the predictable result of surpluses of gym teachers and shortages of calculus teachers
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It goes on and on.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:20 pm**

As long as people don't look into whether or not I'm overpaid.

thibodeaux wrote: Unfortunately, paying more for teachers in hard-to-staff subject areas is not something that most districts can do. Union contracts generally mandate that gym teachers must be paid the same as calculus teachers, with the predictable result of surpluses of gym teachers and shortages of calculus teachers

This is probably the most annoying one.

Overall, I think teacher pay is generally fine, but I'd like NC to be on the higher side rather than lower.

I'd also like more free time for kids.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:31 pm**

Private school teachers get paid way less than public school teachers, and that was a surprise to me.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:59 pm**

GORDON wrote: Private school teachers get paid way less than public school teachers, and that was a surprise to me.

Was to me back in the day, but then I remember what shitheads public school kids are. Also, they get discounted tuition for their own kids.

Private school kids are a different kind of asshole. They're not going to shoot you... probably. Just whine to mom + dad.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:03 pm**

Me: We should provide more funding to the school system.

Also me: God damn this fucking bureaucratic piece of shit school system that should burn in hell.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:04 pm**

These teachers seem to "care" way more. We get paragraphs written by each teacher each grading period, not just a "a pleasure to have in class" next to the grade.

There's a graph somewhere illustrating that increased funding for schools doesn't improve student scores. It's all administration. Fuck all of them.

Posted: **Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:28 pm**

TheCatt wrote: Me: We should provide more funding to the school system.

Also me: God damn this fucking bureaucratic piece of shit school system that should burn in hell.

That's pretty much where I come down.

The administrators make way too much, and generally are just politicians.