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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:52 am
by Paul
I thought this was pretty interesting.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:29 am
by Malcolm
Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are double booked?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:21 pm
by Leisher
They are double booked.
They are mutants, and Magneto's kids, but also members of The Avengers from WAY back. (I think the 60s?)
It's interesting because Spider-Man and Wolverine are also Avengers.
I posted something a few months back where Hugh Jackson was publicly asking Fox, Marvel, and Sony to figure something out so Wolverine and Spider-Man could appear in the next Avengers film.
What would be really interesting is if WB and Marvel could come to an agreement and make a Avengers vs JLA movie.
In related news, Marvel is working VERY hard right now to push "Inhumans". They're a group of super humans that have been around since the earliest days of the Fantastic Four (I don't understand why they don't fall under the FF's rights...). They're like mutants, only not at all interesting or popular.
Anyway, the idea behind them is that there are these special crystals that can be turned to mist, and when humans are exposed, if they're decedents of the inhumans, they gain super powers.
The funny thing is that the vast majority of them barely pass for human. Their looks are as mutated as their powers.
Now Marvel is doing this huge event to boost their population, and oddly enough, many still look human.
The idea is that Marvel's trying to make the Inhumans as popular as the X-Men so they can make movies about them.
Good luck with that.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:53 pm
by Malcolm
I just have to wonder why Universal and Lionsgate are holding onto Namor and Man-Thing, respectively.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:06 pm
by Leisher
That's interesting too. Daredevil and Ghost Rider just came back to Marvel because the rights holder, I think Fox, let them lapse.
Meanwhile, Sony will be doing constantly Spider-Man movies or they lose the rights. Ditto for Fox and the X-Men.
I don't think I've seen a Namor or Man-Thing movie...ever. So why do they still have the rights?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:23 pm
by Malcolm
Man-Thing. As for Namor, the last time he was in the news, I think it was for the commemorative stamp being released with his image.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:39 pm
by Leisher
See, but that's odd. That was almost a decade ago, and nothing new. Fox lost the rights to DD and Ghost Rider because they let them expire. Sony and Fox are going to be shoving their characters at us for fear of losing the rights.
Why do these other two companies get to hold onto their rights?
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:55 pm
by Malcolm
I'd say simply because no one cares about Namor or Man-Thing. But if they're making a fucking Ant Man movie, I guess anything goes.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:45 pm
by TPRJones
Leisher wrote:Why do these other two companies get to hold onto their rights?
Well, it's not like some piece of law that makes it so Sony and Fox have to make movies or give up their rights, it's what was in the contract all parties originally agreed to.
No doubt the contracts for Namor and Man-Thing were quite a bit less stringent than those for Spiderman and the X-Men.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:17 pm
by Leisher
If you don't believe Marvel is PISSED about Fox having the rights to their characters, here's some proof from the comics end of Marvel.
Every year Marvel puts out an image showing all the characters in their universe.
Here's the image from 2007:

Here's the one from 2013:

And finally, here is this year's image:

As I've said previously, get Fox to give the rights back and the Marvel cinematic universe would change overnight.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:32 pm
by Malcolm
Surprised Spidey made it if Wolverine got bumped.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:26 pm
by Leisher
Well, Sony and Marvel made a deal for Spidey, so he'll be in the Marvel cinematic universe now.
Also, Wolverine is dead. Not kidding. Marvel killed him off in a piss poor way (the story was complete shit), and there are no plans to bring him back. I didn't believe that at first, but I think Marvel has Disney money now, so they're fine leaving the FF, Wolvie, and possibly most of the X-Men on the bench until they get their movie rights back.
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:07 pm
by Malcolm
I think they can ride the Avengers for quite some time. Wolvie'll be back soon as Fox lets go.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:39 pm
by Leisher
Interesting tidbit from the leaked Sony emails.
This time it's Marvel and a Sony guy talking.
The most interesting point is that Kevin Feige, the brains behind the Marvel CU, has no desire to "reboot". He thinks casting new actors and continuing to tell stories will work just fine, ala James Bond.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:47 pm
by Malcolm
To me it's James Bond and we can keep telling new stories for decades even with different actors.
- Kevin Feige
Agreed. It's easier to find new, equally interesting actors to portray characters as opposed to coming up with "new" plots, characters, and themes which are just retreads of the last attempt.
Question for you both: One day soon we will be rebooting the Iron Man franchise with new actors. In that reboot would you change the events of the first trilogy? E.g. Obadiah becomes a true father figure to Tony, Pepper gets jealous and she becomes the one that gets him thrown out of the company and tries to kill him for walking away from defense contracts? Pepper Potts falls in love with a caucasian Rhodey instead of Tony? It’s almost like setting up an alternate universe to the first trilogy. You guys are not seeing this?
Goddamn, hell no. That sort of thing might fly in the comics, but a billion "What Ifs," "Elseworlds," or alternate universe shit will kill things faster than bad sequels.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:56 pm
by TPRJones
I don't care what it takes, I just don't want every new movie with a new actor in a role to be a rehash of the origin story. Enough already.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:58 pm
by GORDON
I haven't even seen the last 2 spiderman movies.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:12 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:I haven't even seen the last 2 spiderman movies.
The Andrew Garfield ones are better than the Tobey Maguire ones.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:17 pm
by GORDON
The devil you say.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:20 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:The devil you say.
The Tobey ones were awful, just god-fucking-awful. The Garfield ones are at least watchable, for the most part. The Green Goblin still comes off as a Power Rangers villain, but at least he's killing people right out of the gate instead of having deep conversations with his reflection in the mirror.