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Book and Movie - Stephen King- Doctor Sleep - Shining sequel
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:45 pm
by GORDON
I read one of his sequels before... the sequal to The Talisman that was called, Black House. As a sequel, that book kind of sucked. Travellin' Jack didn't even remember his adventures as an adult, so it was like a completely different character and we wanted more Travellin' Jack.
Doctor Sleep did it better. We pick up with Danny Torrence after a rough childhood, and he is having problems dealing with the shit that happened to him as a child... and continues to follow him. The book delivers. Plus, it is a change from King's usual... well, I won't spoil anything.
Anyway, this is a great sequel to The Shining. The book, not the movie with Jack Nicholson... King doesn't like that movie and doesn't consider it to be his story.
I didn't, but it might have been better to reread The Shining, first. Plenty of callbacks and I haven't read it in about 25 years.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:50 pm
by Malcolm
not the movie with Jack Nicholson... King doesn't like that movie and doesn't consider it to be his story.
But he thinks the movie version of The Mist rocked.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:01 pm
by TheCatt
I read 70 pages of the Shining a couple of decades ago, and was bored.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:51 pm
by GORDON
Yeah, I was probably..... 18 when I last read it? But I remember liking it. I also have never had ADHD.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:53 pm
by TheCatt
GORDON wrote:Yeah, I was probably..... 18 when I last read it? But I remember liking it. I also have never had ADHD.
I was diagnosed with ADD. But it was just so boring. Maybe some day I'll try to re-read it.
The movie was very good.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:55 pm
by GORDON
Doctor Sleep will have moments that literally make zero sense if you have only seen the (Kubrick) movie. The other movie was overseen by King and follows the book.
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:08 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Doctor Sleep will have moments that literally make zero sense if you have only seen the (Kubrick) movie. The other movie was overseen by King and follows the book.
The shitty TV version with Steven Weber? Fuck that one. King has lost his damn mind. He needs to start drinking and doing coke again.
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:27 am
by GORDON
Malcolm wrote:not the movie with Jack Nicholson... King doesn't like that movie and doesn't consider it to be his story.
But he thinks the movie version of
The Mist rocked.
The movie was actually pretty faithful to the novelette... up until the last 5 minutes. I didn't like the last 5 minutes.
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:47 am
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Malcolm wrote:not the movie with Jack Nicholson... King doesn't like that movie and doesn't consider it to be his story.
But he thinks the movie version of
The Mist rocked.
The movie was actually pretty faithful to the novelette... up until the last 5 minutes. I didn't like the last 5 minutes.
King sucked the conclusion's cock.
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:03 am
by GORDON
Yeah, it actually was kind of a King moment. He likes killing off people you like. I think that was just over the top and didn't make sense, though.
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 1:15 pm
by Malcolm
GORDON wrote:Yeah, it actually was kind of a King moment. He likes killing off people you like. I think that was just over the top and didn't make sense, though.
Thought it was a great moment to illustrate how Lucasian he's become.
Book - Stephen King- Doctor Sleep - Sequel to The Shining
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:03 pm
by GORDON
Just watched the movie.
#1 point was going to be simply, "Three fucking hours long." Then at the end of the Plex version I watched, I see this was a Director's Cut. I never saw the theatrical version, and I wonder what's different.
#2 point: The length being addressed, from what I remember of the book I read 5 years ago, this was decently faithful.
#3 - This version has lots of time for the story to breathe. There were certain scenes when you could tell the director was trying to recreate some of Kubrick's angles fro, The Shining, but I have to say that seeing them kind of brought me out of the movie and I'd think, "He's mimicking Kubrick." Prolly not the intent. Musical cues are also pulled from the Kubrick movie.
Major parts of the flick are callbacks to The Shining, so don't worry that they'll ignore the past and try to tell a new story. This is very, very much a continuation of little Danny Torrance's story.... and it isn't pretty. Turns out surviving the Overlook Hotel when you're 9 years old will seriously fuck a kid up. There's some truly painful things to see when Danny hits rock bottom, and this movie doesn't try to polish it up.
I don't recall this flick doing super well in the box office, but I think it deserves a look if you liked the first movie.