Welcome to Thunderdome

"We're not choosing a Sunday school teacher," Corey Lewandowski, Trump's former campaign manager who is now a CNN contributor, told Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room." "We're electing a leader to the free world."

Wow. Just to note: totally cool for the leader of the free world to grab pussy. Guess Bill's past is a-ok.

Blowback in Utah.

Crystal Young-Otterstrom, vice chair of the LDS Democrats of America, said her group now has new ammunition to persuade Mormon voters to consider Clinton.

“If any Mormons weren’t already clear about the fact that Donald Trump is a misogynist, I think it’s pretty clear now,” she said. “The kind of man he is profoundly contradicts what many Mormons aspire to be.”

There are a couple things in that sentence I find hilarious.

Top Trump surrogate Ben Carson said "in no way do I condone Trump's behavior" but said he was "fairly certain" progressives knew about Trump's 2005 remarks but waited until now to damage his candidacy.

Funny, I didn't hear you bitching out Wikileaks when they dropped all those Hillary e-mails at a convenient time.

Let's examine some of the other delusional pachyderms:

Pence said he does not "condone" Trump's remarks and "cannot defend them" but is "grateful that he has expressed remorse and apologized."

Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the No. 2 Senate Republican, tweeted he is "disgusted by Mr Trump's words" and is "profoundly disappointed by the race to the bottom this presidential campaign has become."

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy said "there is absolutely no place" for Trump's language in American society and that he "must" make a "full and unqualified apology."

Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise said "women deserve to be treated with respect. Period," and that Trump should make "a direct apology."

Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst, a rising star in the party, called Trump's remarks "lewd and insulting."

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul called Trump's comments "offensive and unacceptable" -- but a spokesman didn't respond when asked if Paul was still going to vote for Trump.

Here's a dude with the balls not to blindly follow his misguided, fucked up, self-destructive party:

Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger -- who campaigned with Kasich during the primaries -- said Saturday this election will be the first presidential contest where he won't vote for the GOP candidate.

But wait, there's more.

In an October 2006 interview, Stern remarks that Ivanka "looks more voluptuous than ever," and asked if she had gotten breast implants. Trump is willing to engage in the discussion about his own daughter, telling Stern that she did not get implants.

"She's actually always been very voluptuous," Trump responds. "She's tall, she's almost 6 feet tall and she's been, she's an amazing beauty."

In another interview, from September 2004, Stern asks Trump if he can call Ivanka "a piece of ass," to which Trump responds in the affirmative.

"My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka," says Trump.

"By the way, your daughter," says Stern.

"She's beautiful," responds Trump.

"Can I say this? A piece of ass," Stern responds.

"Yeah," says Trump.

Go home, Trump.

TheCatt wrote:Trump says how he really feels about women

Getting crucified. Polls dying.

To be honest, the polls were showing him dropping to post Dem convention levels before this even hit the news. Some Republican strategists think this means the Senate is gone and worrying about the extent of House damage now.

In a conversation with my dad while the primary was still going on, I told him that the press was sitting on a number of Trump stories and were he to win the nomination his kids probably wouldn't even admit voting for him by the time it was done. Wikileaks released emails showing Hillary coordinated with a superpac and it got no traction in the news because of this. I think they are more along the lines of Wiki-incontinence at this point. Rumor has it that the oppo team has two more drops about Trump at this point. They said one along the lines of this last one and one much worse. Time will tell.

Christ on a crutch, Rudy.

Rudy Giuliani defended Donald Trump's crude remarks about women Sunday, telling CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" that "men at times talk like that."
But the former New York City mayor also admitted that what Trump was describing in a 2005 video is sexual assault.

Still voting for him. Still supporting him. But let's dig the hole deeper:

Tapper pressed Giuliani on Trump's claim -- in the video from a 2005 "Access Hollywood" interview published Friday by The Washington Post -- that because he is a star, he could walk up to women and "grab them by the pussy," asking who Trump did that to.

"First of all, I don't know that he did it to anyone. This is talk, and gosh almighty, he who hasn't sinned, throw the first stone here," Giuliani said.

Are you fist-fucking me? Well hell, Rudy was caught cheating on his wife more than once, so....

Tapper said: "I have never said that; I have never done that. I am happy to throw a stone. I have been in locker rooms. I have been a member of a fraternity. I have never heard any man, ever, brag about being able to maul women because they get away with it -- never."

Giuliani responded: "We've taken it to an extra degree of what he said. But the fact is that men at times talk like that. Not all men, but men do. He was wrong for doing it. I am not justifying it. I believe it's wrong. I know he believes it's wrong. I believe this is not the man we're talking about today."

Then Rudy, you fucking cum dumpster of a shill, you're a bigger fucking moron than you look. Donnie Dickweed doesn't believe he did or said anything wrong, ever, about anything. The only part he thinks is "wrong" is the part costing him votes. If you think he's even slightly apologetic for this, then you're fucking stupider than the 9-11 truthers who think you had something to do with bringing the towers down.

This whole thing is hilarious and sad for a number of reasons:
1. Hillary would be getting annihilated by an actual candidate. The fact that people are pointing to her as the only choice is mind boggling. It's like people think they're in a room with two ways out, shooting yourself in the head (Clinton) or burning yourself alive (Trump), meanwhile the door is open (Johnson), but people won't walk out. "For the children you can't set yourself on fire!!!! Just shoot yourself!" "But I could just walk out the door and live..." "Are you insane!?"
2. The way guys talk to one another about women is a real thing. Please stop pretending "you" don't or "real men" don't do that. The distinction in what dumbass said is about power and being able to do what he wants.
3. Women talk like pigs too. By the way, how much of a difference is there between what Trump said and a woman getting dressed up nice to go out, and then doing so without money because she knows she'll get everything paid for by men she meets? She's not grabbing their dicks, but the attitude is the same.
4. Trump is such a train wreck that Hillary has committed actual crimes and nobody gives a shit. She committed treason by definition and *yawn* says the American public.

Trump is nothing more than a rich asshole whose ego is out of control. So much so that he believed he could be the president.

It'd be funny if the MSM tore him down so much that he did drop out because whomever they propped up into his place would immediately start beating Hillary's ass. The spotlight and "worst candidate ever" tag would be off Trump and firmly on Hillary.

1. Trump would be getting annihilated by an actual candidate too. Or maybe a male one? I'm really unsure at this point.

The athletes responding to the locker talk, "I've never heard that kind of language!" bullshit.... makes me want to open a twitter account just so I can reply to them, "That's funny, because I can see YOUR pussy from here."

1. Trump would be getting annihilated by an actual candidate too. Or maybe a male one? I'm really unsure at this point.

It's madness.

The athletes responding to the locker talk, "I've never heard that kind of language!" bullshit.... makes me want to open a twitter account just so I can reply to them, "That's funny, because I can see YOUR pussy from here."

That locker room thing is a complete joke.

Why are we all pretending that these real things aren't real? Derrick Rose, a professional athlete, is on trial for rape right now because he simply thought a woman was willing to do anything for him, which in his mind meant him and his friends gang-banging her while she was unconscious. He says things about women far worse than Trump, but let's pretend "locker room talk" is an actual phrase for no reason whatsoever.

Everything illegal and fucked up that Hillary has actually done is being ignored because Trump says mean things. The media seems to be controlling the message pretty well.

The notion that every male behind closed doors talks this way is insanity.

TheCatt wrote:The notion that every male behind closed doors talks this way is insanity.

Of course it is, but let's not pretend it never happened until Trump did it.

GORDON wrote:

TheCatt wrote:The notion that every male behind closed doors talks this way is insanity.

Of course it is, but let's not pretend it never happened until Trump did it.

It's not that, it's that he's trying to use it as a defense of why it was ok to say it at that time in front of that audience. If you're someone who's NOT running for the most visible public office in the country, then you can get away with that. Donnie Dipshit had to have figured that over the course of all the interviews he's given, all the people he's met and fucked over, everyone he's ever sued or been a dick to, all his classy biz practices, or even things he just said when a tape recorder was around would be fair game and brought up at the most inconvenient possible times. He's getting destroyed because he finally pushed the big, red button that makes every brainless PC (lefties) or morally righteous (righties) voter get their panties in a twist -- FUCKING. You might remember it as the very outrage that back in 2004 elevated one shriveled titty into the biggest fucking national issue since Pearl goddamn Harbor was bombed.

Vulgar locker room talk of that style isn't normal. More common, perhaps, is telling other guys they are wimps or have no game because they can't attract desirable females. Talking about assaulting or using ones position to force yourself upon said females isn't normal, or encouraged in any similar environment I've been in. If you think it is, then you need to spend some time looking internally or considering the company you keep.

What Troy said.

It's a great day to be Tiny Balls Trump.

Fails history during debate.

"There's never been anybody in the history of politics in this nation that's been so abusive to women," Trump said. "Bill Clinton was abusive to women. Hillary Clinton attacked those same women and attacked them viciously."

So, no. JFK and LBJ spring immediately to mind. Then there's you.

Broaddrick looked directly at a small group of reporters in the room and said: "Actions speak louder than words. Mr. Trump may have said some bad words but Bill Clinton raped me and Hillary Clinton threatened me. I don't think there's any comparison."

Congratulations on being a shill, I hope your check clears. He said bad words insinuating he's into the same sort of behaviour Bubba is AND he thinks it's perfectly alright because he's a rich celebrity. Also, if you're giving bad words about sexual assault a pass, then I suppose bad words about harming you also get one. Last I checked, Bill wasn't running for office again. This is precisely the strategy I expect from the dude who took out an attack ad on Bernie after Bernie dropped out of the race.

But don't take it from me, take it from these radical communist newspapers:

The American Conservative: Yes, Trump Has Destroyed the GOP. The author is trying to whitewash this by saying, "Well, at least he's sweeping out the old bullshit." Yeah, right. So the new bullshit can get going. This is the closest the pachyderms have been to winning in a long time. I bet the strategy and rhetoric is copied next time, except they try to pick someone who isn't so obviously fucking idiotic and politically unattractive that getting a Prince Albert piercing put in and ripped out every day for a month solid seems less painful than casting a vote for him, or indeed, even listening to his tired polemics which make less sense than me after a mescaline binge.

If Trump wins, he will remake the party entirely in his image. But because he cannot govern himself, he cannot govern the country. By the end of his presidency (whether it comes via impeachment or voter rejection in 2020), the GOP will be a smoking ruin.

If Trump loses, he won’t go away. It will be all-Dolchstosslegende, all the time (Drumpfstosslegende?) He will be a constant presence on the public scene, hectoring the Republican Party, denouncing its leaders for betraying him, and keeping his base riled up. Because of his big mouth and gift for self-promotion, he stands to make himself, not Congressional Republicans, the voice of opposition to President Hillary Clinton. If he can manage to recruit candidates in his image to run in GOP primaries nationwide, he stands a chance of building a movement. This is not necessarily a bad thing. A lot of us (I am one) sympathize with much of what Trump stands for (versus the present-day GOP), but reject him because of his character and temperament. Trump doesn’t have a coherent philosophy, but there are others who do have a coherent, plausible, and persuasive alternative to the neoliberalism of the Democratic and Republican parties. Trump may well have prepared the way for them, in the same way that a bomber squadron prepares the way for a shiny new factory by bombing the old one to rubble.

Here's another leftist thought tank. The Federalist: Trump Triggers Great GOP Crackup.

Why did it take Republicans so long to realize Donald Trump is a mortal threat to their party? Since the release on Friday of a 2005 video showing Trump boasting about women in vulgar terms (to put it mildly), Republicans politicians and party officials have been scrambling to disavow him.
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They aren’t wrong, they’re just late. Perhaps they were thinking of a line attributed to Abraham Lincoln: “Be with a leader when he is right, stay with him when he is still right, leave him when he is wrong.”

Good advice, but the trouble is that Trump was never right. He was wrong from day one, for the GOP and for the country. It’s a good thing so many Republicans are leaving him, but it’s too little, too late. With less than 30 days until the election, it doesn’t do much good now to declare that your nominee is a lecherous old misogynist who’s unfit for office.

Republicans should have done that back in July before their national convention, when it still had a principled ring to it. Now, it smacks of sheer opportunism. We didn’t learn anything new about Trump from that recording. All that’s changed is this: Republicans know they can’t win with this guy, and the only thing to do now is scramble for the lifeboats in a last-ditch effort to save themselves.

Then there's this tidbit that tells us why he hasn't released his tax info yet.

Donald J. Trump explicitly acknowledged for the first time during Sunday’s debate that he used a $916 million loss that he reported on his 1995 income tax returns to avoid paying personal federal income taxes for years.

Mr. Trump’s response — “Of course I do. Of course I do” — was the fullest the wealthy developer had provided since The New York Times reported that he had declared the loss, and that the tax deduction could have been large enough to allow him to avoid federal income taxes for up to 18 years.

If only every American had a set of tax shelter companies to absorb their $900M snafus.

Evangelical dude pulls support.

“I previously called Donald Trump a ‘good candidate with flaws’ and a ‘flawed candidate’ but I now regret that I did not more strongly condemn his moral character. I cannot commend Trump’s moral character, and I strongly urge him to withdraw from the election.”

Crazy runs in the family.

Wait, what? Ivanka Trump "liked" a story via Twitter about her dad, Donald Trump, calling her a "piece of ass" during a 2004 interview with Howard Stern.

WTF is wrong with you fucktards? Are you counting on the subconscious incest vote?

GORDON wrote:The athletes responding to the locker talk, "I've never heard that kind of language!" bullshit.... makes me want to open a twitter account just so I can reply to them, "That's funny, because I can see YOUR pussy from here."

Clinton: sets up her own email server so she can have complete control of correspondence of every shady thing she's been doing and use technology to obliterate the evidence when powers that be start snooping.
Trump: Says really disgusting stuff in front of a camera and sound guy with people he really doesn't know that well and has no control of said video/audio.

They are both filthy and nasty. She's just much more competent.

Troy wrote:Vulgar locker room talk of that style isn't normal. More common, perhaps, is telling other guys they are wimps or have no game because they can't attract desirable females. Talking about assaulting or using ones position to force yourself upon said females isn't normal, or encouraged in any similar environment I've been in. If you think it is, then you need to spend some time looking internally or considering the company you keep.

In circles we all keep, you're right. In reality, you're probably very wrong.

Listen, we're all normal middle class (give or take) professionals. We do the standard guy stuff that would get us called "pigs" by feminists. We post pics of naked ladies, we discuss who's bangable, etc. Hell, we've even discussed hate fucking someone once or twice.

What we don't do is the type of talk Trump did in the video.

There's a huge difference between "I would wreck that fucking chick" and "I can walk up and grab her pussy because I'm powerful." HUGE.

I think most of us here are married, all but one have a mother, and a few of us have daughters. There's no lack of respect for women here.

However, we're not "all" men. I think it goes without saying that women aren't well respected around the world. Additionally, when you're that rich aren't women looked upon as "property"? Not saying it's correct to think that way, but you have to admit there's something to that.

I'd even argue that many of the professional athletes who say Trump's remarks are wrong, yet keep girlfriends in all the different cities they play in are guilty of objectifying women in the same way Trump is in the video.

Anyway, my point stands. All guys AND girls can talk in offensive ways. Do we take it to the levels that Trump did? Probably not without it being a clear joke about your mom.

I'm trying really hard to remember the last time the Speaker of the House refused to campaign for or endorse his candidate.

Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, delivered a blunt political warning to his colleagues, according to one lawmaker on the call who asked for anonymity in order to speak freely.

Walden instructed them to continue polling regularly, the member said, because the end of this campaign was like landing an airplane in a hurricane: “You have to trust the instruments.”

Keep on riding that Titanic right to the ocean floor, common sense be damned. I'm going to fucking DVR Trump's defeat speech in a month, and savour the moment with a glass of fine scotch. Then I'm going to down a lowball of moonshine because it's at least four years of Hillary.

And in an interview Monday, former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), a close ally of Trump’s, said his performance would make it more difficult for Republicans to abandon him.

“They’ve really raised the ante on Republicans who want to cut and run,” he said. “How can you have watched that debate without knowing he won?”

I need the peyote Newt's taking. How can you have watched that debate and think anybody won? This is the fucking definition of a no-win situation.

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway emphasized Monday that her candidate was prepared to stay on the offensive during the final weeks of the campaign.

Calling her boss’s performance “masterful” in an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Conway said Trump’s threat to appoint a special prosecutor essentially asks Clinton: “Why is there a separate set of rules applied to you?”

“I think that’s Donald Trump channeling the frustration he hears from thousands of voters out there on the stump every day,” she said.

What fucking election are you watching? You're getting buried. Your candidate is literally the only person in the country who can piss away momentum faster than Mrs. Bill. It's fucking astounding. You know what that's done for him? On his best days, he was still a point or two below Hillary on average across the polls. He's now behind by double digits. Can you perhaps at least admit that your current plan is tanking like Amy Winehouse's intervention party?

The campaign’s plan, which was closely held and unknown to several of Trump’s top aides, was thwarted just minutes before it could be executed when officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates intervened. The commission officials warned that, if the Trump campaign tried to seat the accusers in the elevated family box, security officers would remove the women, according to the people involved, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential.

“We had it all set,” said former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, referring to a plan that was devised by Trump campaign chief executive Stephen K. Bannon and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and personally approved by Trump. “We wanted to have them shake hands with Bill, to see if Bill would shake hands with them.”

Should've run them by Trump to see if he felt any of them were worthy of a pussy grab.

The evening’s caustic tone was set when Trump and Clinton refused to shake hands when they met at center stage. Trump was asked at the start of the debate whether he understood that he was effectively describing sexual assault in the newly released video. His voice flat, Trump framed the matter as a distraction from the problems facing the world.

“I’m very embarrassed by it,” Trump said. “I hate it. But it’s locker-room talk. It’s one of those things. I will knock the hell out of ISIS.”

What in the HELL? Is he implying that ISIS is like a vagina? He'll reach out, grab it, then fling it away once he's done playing? He's going to buy its leaders some furniture and try to fuck them?

I guess I got used to the company of Marines, and shit. That talk is just talk, and the ones who spoke that way... it never worked, and they didn't get women. I am not going to faint over it, and I'm not going to let the Hillary camp tell me how I should be feeling about it.

I refuse to use the word "deplorable" unironically.