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But you aren't going to make China and the rest of Asia do shit about shit, and they are the main pollution problem.

So there's no percentage game here? All or nothing? Like maybe if some genius comes up with an insanely cheap and efficient means of converting light or wind to energy ... that wouldn't convince either of those two places to change their tune?

I notice a trend. I'm also willing to toss more cash at this than I am at developing new ways to suck every last drop of crude out of every corner and crevasse of the planet.

It's like when the average person thinks they can make a difference, but they are one person in 350,000,000. What's the pollution share of an individual, just looking at that number? And the thing is, individual cars and personal air conditioners aren't the only cause of pollution... IIRC, I think the number was "7" ocean freighters pump out more sulfur emissions into the air than all automobile in the US, combined, and there are a lot more than 7 ocean freighters. Again, IIRC, industrial use was the 3rd cause of CO2 in the US, and lots comes from natural sources in the land, and lots come from a single random volcano at the bottom of the ocean that we never even knew about. And the US isn't the only polluter, we're the only major one who thinks about it. China was mentioned already today, but they are building a new coal plant "every 7 to 10 days."

So no, the average American can do neither jack nor shit about the environment, the average individual American's impact on the environment is so minuscule that I think I have a way better chance kicking in $5 to Powerball a few times a year and winning than I have of making any kind of difference to the planet, and in fact, the cost of the electricity they use to share one facebook story after another about the environment is doing more harm than good than if they'd not be running a computing device.

People want to hate other people and be on a side and be afraid the sky is falling, they don't want to actually take any significant steps and make a difference.

GORDON wrote:It's like when the average person thinks they can make a difference, but they are one person in 350,000,000. What's the pollution share of an individual, just looking at that number? And the thing is, individual cars and personal air conditioners aren't the only cause of pollution... IIRC, I think the number was "7" ocean freighters pump out more sulfur emissions into the air than all automobile in the US, combined, and there are a lot more than 7 ocean freighters. Again, IIRC, industrial use was the 3rd cause of CO2 in the US, and lots comes from natural sources in the land, and lots come from a single random volcano at the bottom of the ocean that we never even knew about. And the US isn't the only polluter, we're the only major one who thinks about it. China was mentioned already today, but they are building a new coal plant "every 7 to 10 days."

So no, the average American can do neither jack nor shit about the environment, the average individual American's impact on the environment is so minuscule that I think I have a way better chance kicking in $5 to Powerball a few times a year and winning than I have of making any kind of difference to the planet, and in fact, the cost of the electricity they use to share one facebook story after another about the environment is doing more harm than good than if they'd not be running a computing device.

People want to hate other people and be on a side and be afraid the sky is falling, they don't want to actually take any significant steps and make a difference.

'Significant steps' = killing chinks?

actually, what I had in mind was "killing themselves."

Flint loves them some Trump.

Community members and representatives of the water crisis activist group Flint Rising slammed the Republican presidential nominee’s visit as nothing more than a photo opportunity.

GORDON wrote:It's like when the average person thinks they can make a difference, but they are one person in 350,000,000. What's the pollution share of an individual, just looking at that number? And the thing is, individual cars and personal air conditioners aren't the only cause of pollution... IIRC, I think the number was "7" ocean freighters pump out more sulfur emissions into the air than all automobile in the US, combined, and there are a lot more than 7 ocean freighters. Again, IIRC, industrial use was the 3rd cause of CO2 in the US, and lots comes from natural sources in the land, and lots come from a single random volcano at the bottom of the ocean that we never even knew about. And the US isn't the only polluter, we're the only major one who thinks about it. China was mentioned already today, but they are building a new coal plant "every 7 to 10 days."

So no, the average American can do neither jack nor shit about the environment, the average individual American's impact on the environment is so minuscule that I think I have a way better chance kicking in $5 to Powerball a few times a year and winning than I have of making any kind of difference to the planet, and in fact, the cost of the electricity they use to share one facebook story after another about the environment is doing more harm than good than if they'd not be running a computing device.

People want to hate other people and be on a side and be afraid the sky is falling, they don't want to actually take any significant steps and make a difference.

Between this post and the environmentalist thread, and my opinions about politics, I've been waiting for someone to ask me what the deal was with my nihilistic outlook on life, lately.

GORDON wrote:Between this post and the environmentalist thread, and my opinions about politics, I've been waiting for someone to ask me what the deal was with my nihilistic outlook on life, lately.

Sorry, I didn't find your positions to be so unreasonable that they needed explanation.

GORDON wrote:Between this post and the environmentalist thread, and my opinions about politics, I've been waiting for someone to ask me what the deal was with my nihilistic outlook on life, lately.

Glad you asked!

I have a story to illustrate my mood, lately.

So this summer we went to a few amusement parks, and on hot days sometimes it feels good to hit those water rides where you are guaranteed to get douched in that water that they never change that is probably more human sweat than it is water, any more.

Anyway, we ride these rides, and then we look at the pictures afterwards, and everyone in the car/train/canoe/raft/whatever is always hunkered down or cringing, anticipating some big splash... but then there's me, arms wide, taking it on, big smile on my face.

My wife asked why I do that in all of these pics, and I answered, "Hey, when there's nothing you can do to stop it, and it's absolutely coming, you might as well just smile and embrace the horror."

The environment? Politics? The world in general? You can't do shit about it. Embrace the horror.

The environment? Politics? The world in general? You can't do shit about it. Embrace the horror.

My innate contrariness will not allow me to do so.

Embrace the horror.

That reminds me, when was the last time you hugged your MIL?

With her, I've just stopped caring, this way I feel no pain or frustration. I can't force her to take care of herself. Interestingly, this is why there haven't been any funny stories in a long time.... the funny stories came from a place of pain.

So, horror = numbness?

Two different things, but sometimes. I actually could make a difference with her if I really wanted to, and took steps to keep myself out of jail (by forcing her to take her meds and exercise, of course... which is, ironically "elder abuse."). But who cares? That's too much effort. She'll kill herself soon enough and my conscience will be clear.

Pop quiz, Fuckhead Dipshit, your opponent is reeling and on the decline. What's the best course of action for you to take?

A) Say nothing.
B) Pick a fight with a minority pastor.

If you picked B, congratulations, you're Donald Trump and the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it," Trump said Friday, at the end of a 20-minute event promoting his new hotel.

What. In. The. Fuck. Is this the Trump from the mirror universe where Spock has a beard?

Cue the attention whores.

When asked repeatedly what his plan would be to stop future attacks, he was vague on details.

“We’re going to have to do something extremely tough over there,” Trump said.

“Like knock the hell out of them. And we have to get everybody together and we have to lead for a change,” Trump said. “We’re going to have to be very tough and you have other countries over there that we are getting devastated far more than we are. And you have to get them together. It’s called leadership. And they have to fight. You know, they have to fight the battle. The battle is over there. And we have to fight the battle and we can’t let any more people come into this country and when we have bad ones — you know, we have people going over fighting for ISIS and coming back and we know they are fighting for ISIS and we take them. Once you leave this country, you fight for ISIS, you never come back.”

What the fuck?

“In Israel they profile. They’ve done an unbelievable job as good as you can do … and they’ll profile. They see somebody that’s suspicious they will profile. They will take that person and they’ll check them,” Trump said. “Do we have a choice? Look what’s going on. Do we really have a choice?

Yes, we really have a choice because I don't want to live in fucking Israel.

Trump also brushed off criticism for calling the explosion in New York a bombing before it was confirmed by officials.

"I should be a newscaster because I called it before the news. But what I said was exactly correct and everybody says while he was right, he called it too soon. OK, give me a break,” Trump said.

You guessed. Guessing doesn't mean shit.

Considering the "recklessness" that the press exhibited when there was an attack on a democrat or a government institution in speculating the possible link to the Tea Party groups, I think the general public is sick of all this crap in relation to jihadists attacking us and the press being so scared to say anything about it. Look, a Muslim blowing people up or shooting people while yelling "Allah ackbar" might be terror related. I can't stand Trump, but compared to Hillary and the press after this attack, he was the only one that didn't look completely incompetent.

Hillary: I'v been briefed on the bombing in New York.
Press: Are you concerned that Trump is already calling it a bombing? (we'll all pretend you didn't just do that as well)

George the elder is voting Clinton says a Kennedy.

So therefore it's fact and qualifies as a top news story for Yahoo.

There is no media bias!

I have been at "will vote for some down ticket Republicans" for a while and then the press has annoyed me so badly with the "if you question Hillary's health you're a sexist" and other obviously horribly biased positions until I was about to the point of considering voting for Trump because the press had become so deplorable. Then Rancid Penis (Reince Priebus), who can't stop David Duke from running as a Republican for Senate in LA, says that he's going to stop Republicans that don't endorse Trump from running on the Republican ticket in the future. So now the needle's been moved to "thinking about voting for neither party for anything".