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Donald Trump continued to say on Thursday that he has seen video footage taken by the Iranian government that shows the United States delivering $400 million in cash in January, even though his spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday night that the Republican nominee had instead seen footage of three released American prisoners arriving in Switzerland.

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I think I've been on record before in saying that anyone who votes for either major prez candidate this election has bought into the "there are only two choices" lie.

I don't disagree with that, but you're missing the point of those votes. Even if you think the two party system is bullshit, I believe it's still possible to vote for the party rather than the douche or turd sandwich.

Anger and frustration do not give you carte blanche to act like a petulant five-year old.

The jokes write themselves.

Because she generally says less and doesn't go off on twitter rants at the drop of a hat.

That's making dumb assumptions. Just because someone doesn't shoot their mouth off doesn't mean they have a higher IQ than someone who does.

That's the number one thing bugging me about this election. Hillary is getting a free pass for committing actual crimes, including treason (according to the intelligence community), and nobody gives a shit because Trump is loud and rude. Neither one of these pieces of shit should be either party's candidate yet here we are and all we can do is focus on the shiny object rather than the whole picture.

No, fuck you. Give me better choices with a realistic shot at winning. I have a better chance getting accidentally injured or killed on my way to the polls than my vote does of mattering one fucking bit. When someone has a gun to my head and marches me to a ballot, I might pick someone depending how contrary I'm feeling at the time. And don't try to spin not voting into a disrespecting the dead bullshit guilt trip. They died for my right to get saddled with Fucktard A or Fucktard B in a corrupt, badly run, extremist political system that's slowly suffocating itself under its own bloat? I'm not even showing up to the tailgating outside the arena for that game, let alone participating.

No, fuck you. You sit here and bitch non-stop about everything wrong with the government as you see it, and then proudly announce how you're not going to vote. So are you writing letters to politicians? Writing editorials for media outlets? Forming protest groups? Organizing a coup? Running for office yourself? No, you're doing nothing. All I'm saying is that at the very least you could vote Johnson and while your one vote will not win him the election it is another vote against the current system you hate so much. Imagine if all the people angry and frustrated with the system actually got off their asses and voted for a third party candidate this election. All those meaningless single votes would actually mean something when grouped together.

You say yourself that the two party system is a lie, so prove it with your vote.

Technically they also died for my right NOT to vote and by insisting I have to vote you are disrespecting their memory. Freedom includes the freedom to be apathetic.

Technically, you're wrong. I'm insisting you should vote, yes, but I'm not forcing you to vote. There's a MASSIVE difference. And being apathetic doesn't mean sitting on the internet all day whining about the candidates and election when you're not going to vote.

Is what I'm saying really that horrible? "Stop complaining and take action?"

This is the worst election ever.

That is the biggest understatement ever.

You say yourself that the two party system is a lie, so prove it with your vote.

My vote has no effect on who gets in the next election or debate and so no effect on the number of parties "out there."

Just because someone doesn't shoot their mouth off doesn't mean they have a higher IQ than someone who does.

No, but they seem a shitload more sane.

So are you writing letters to politicians? Writing editorials for media outlets? Forming protest groups? Organizing a coup? Running for office yourself? No, you're doing nothing.

Letters? No. Politicians don't read those, they read polls and the "from" tag on the bags of cash lobbyists leave outside their office.

You're encouraging me to work for the media, people you've described as biased and incompetent?

I am a protest group. Of one. Every fucking day.

A coup? Hah. I'd be in charge of a nation of morons even if I won.

Running for office? No, I'm not independently wealthy nor enough of a tool to beg for donations year round.

I'll participate in the system when the system isn't a fucking joke. Until then, my choice is fuck it, at least I'm not contributing to the problem by playing a rigged game and being proud and grateful while doing so.

Just because someone doesn't shoot their mouth off doesn't mean they have a higher IQ than someone who does.

No, it doesn't mean they have a higher IQ, but it does mean they are wiser. It could be the wisdom not to mouth off on social media, or it could be the wisdom to listen to the handlers that are telling them not to mouth off on social media. Either way; wiser.

My vote has no effect on who gets in the next election or debate and so no effect on the number of parties "out there."

I completely disagree, and previous elections back that up.

Look, your single vote might not "mean anything", but as I stated, when added up with other people and their "meaningless" single vote it DOES make a difference. The biggest factor in every election is turnout. If you feel like your candidate has it in the bag, has no chance, or your feel crushed by the system, like you do, then you're likely to stay home. It's my belief that you should always vote. Even if ALL the candidates suck, write in a name.

No, but they seem a shitload more sane.

No, it doesn't mean they have a higher IQ, but it does mean they are wiser. It could be the wisdom not to mouth off on social media, or it could be the wisdom to listen to the handlers that are telling them not to mouth off on social media. Either way; wiser.

No argument on that nor am I implying one is better than the other, but let's say you throw a house party. Donald Trump shows up because he was invited even though you figured he wouldn't show. At first he's cracking some jokes and saying outrageous things and people are into it. They think he's harmless and just letting off some steam. However, instead of scaling back or even staying level, he ramps up his sideshow and becomes a distraction that nobody in the party can ignore. He's not hurting anyone, but he is offending half the party. The half that isn't offended is still embarrassed by him, but "it's a free country".

Is he really the biggest problem at your party or is it Hillary who was in your bedroom rifling through the coats and stealing valuables from everyone?

Letters? No. Politicians don't read those, they read polls and the "from" tag on the bags of cash lobbyists leave outside their office.

Become a politician and change that trend.

You're encouraging me to work for the media, people you've described as biased and incompetent?

One man can make a difference.

I am a protest group. Of one. Every fucking day.

You're preaching to the converted.

A coup? Hah. I'd be in charge of a nation of morons even if I won.

What nation isn't filled with morons?

Running for office? No, I'm not independently wealthy nor enough of a tool to beg for donations year round.

Local elections don't cost much time or money. That's why teens win them from time to time.

I'll participate in the system when the system isn't a fucking joke. Until then, my choice is fuck it, at least I'm not contributing to the problem by playing a rigged game and being proud and grateful while doing so.

That's a terrible plan. What you're essentially doing is going into a restaurant and not ordering off the menu. Instead you let the cook pick for you, he burns the shit to a crisp, and then you pay and walk out with eating or calling over a manager to complain. You are a man standing in a house on fire and instead of acting, your logic is to stand there and let it handle itself. To be fair, it will, just not in a positive way for you.

All I'm saying is that you should consider a vote for Johnson this fall. He's not Trump. He's not Hillary. He's something the two party system fears and tells you you're stupid if you vote for him. Every single vote that guy gets is another middle finger to the Dems and Repubs.

Become a politician and change that trend.

No thanks. I like being able to look in the mirror and not want to kill myself.

One man can make a difference.

Not in DC unless he's the new messiah of kickbacks.

Look, your single vote might not "mean anything", but as I stated, when added up with other people and their "meaningless" single vote it DOES make a difference.

No, it doesn't. The only parties I'd consider voting for at the moment aren't getting national stage or TV time.

Local elections don't cost much time or money. That's why teens win them from time to time.

Woohoo, mayor of West Central Middle of Nowhere, Wyoming.

What you're essentially doing is going into a restaurant and not ordering off the menu.

No, I'm not even walking into the fucking building.

All I'm saying is that you should consider a vote for Johnson this fall ... Every single vote that guy gets is another middle finger to the Dems and Repubs.

If he magically breaks the 15% barrier, perhaps. I'd also bet the pollsters get financial incentive to keep him under that number.

Even if ALL the candidates suck, write in a name.

Nice in theory, but in many areas that's just not an option. Most places there will be three names (Trump, Clinton, and Johnson) and that's it, you have to pick one of those or just not vote. Some places will also have Stein. Very few will let you write in other names.

If you refuse to vote for Trump or Clinton and you don't want to vote for Johnson and there are literally no other options then what do you do? Don't vote. And don't feel bad about it; the system is so broken that not voting is a very valid choice. Because any election that does not have a "none of the above" option of some sort CANNOT be democratic by it's very nature and refusing to participate in a non-democratic election is a valid choice.

Personally I'm voting Trump and then hoping for a quick assassination or impeachment. Although that does leave the problem that Mike Pence is not better.

I still want to allow people the ability to cast an anti-vote. You aren't throwing support behind someone, but picking the candidate you least want to see win and subtracting one from their total. Considering that's mostly how people vote anyway, I think it's about time. Shit, -500K votes might be the winner.

If that were how it worked Johnson would win huge.

My ears were ringing, did someone call for a huge Johnson?

No thanks. I like being able to look in the mirror and not want to kill myself.

I'm not sure how you do that now.

No, it doesn't.

You're right. When a bunch of people vote for the same thing, it means nothing.

Woohoo, mayor of West Central Middle of Nowhere, Wyoming.

To be fair, he or she is actively doing more than you.

No, I'm not even walking into the fucking building.

I didn't realize you weren't a citizen. My bad.

If he magically breaks the 15% barrier, perhaps.

I think that's the one thing I want to see happen more than anything else. However, I fear if it did happen and he was invited to the debates he'd be overshadowed by the circus between the two dumb fucks.

Very few will let you write in other names.

Actually, 43 will.

Personally I'm voting Trump and then hoping for a quick assassination or impeachment

Not the most improbable plan. In fact, it could be a brilliant political maneuver if Trump wins for the Republicans to immediately tie his political beliefs to Dems, then find an excuse to start impeachment proceedings.

When a bunch of people vote for the same thing, it means nothing.

It means they bought into some platitudes. Beyond that, nothing.

I fear if it did happen and he was invited to the debates he'd be overshadowed by the circus between the two dumb fucks.

I've thought about this for a long, long time. The candidates can start the debate together on stage, but when questions start coming, everyone gets their own mic'd, relatively soundproof booth complete with cameras and a timer display inside and out.

1) Clocks get reset to full time for each participant at the start of every question.
2) When it hits 0:00, the mic cuts off, period, automatically.
3) Overrides are placed in front of the moderator, who may extend/kill response times at his discretion.

Anything without these precautions quickly devolves into who can yell louder for longer.

Rigged game.

So far, while Johnson’s support is higher than in past years, an 8.4 percent average is still a distance from the 15 percent he’d need to make the debates.

And he would need to get there by Aug. 15 to qualify, hitting 15 percent in not just one poll but an average of five recent polls chosen by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

First off, an "average" of five polls? Wtf is that? Pick a number, dickweeds. Also gee, I wonder which polls the CPD will pick -- the ones that have Gary polling the highest or the lowest. Until the system wants to talk about negotiating on that and several other key items, fuck it.

They'll pick the ones that don't even mention Johnson, call those zeros, and insist he get an average of 15.

TPRJones wrote:

Even if ALL the candidates suck, write in a name.

Nice in theory, but in many areas that's just not an option. Most places there will be three names (Trump, Clinton, and Johnson) and that's it, you have to pick one of those or just not vote. Some places will also have Stein. Very few will let you write in other names.

If you refuse to vote for Trump or Clinton and you don't want to vote for Johnson and there are literally no other options then what do you do? Don't vote. And don't feel bad about it; the system is so broken that not voting is a very valid choice. Because any election that does not have a "none of the above" option of some sort CANNOT be democratic by it's very nature and refusing to participate in a non-democratic election is a valid choice.

Personally I'm voting Trump and then hoping for a quick assassination or impeachment. Although that does leave the problem that Mike Pence is not better.

I agree. I know KY doesn't allow write in votes. I WILL vote, just not for President. I think this mindset that we MUST vote for one of the crap options presented to us only assures that we continue to get crap options.

Think of it as a McDonald's and a Burger King in a small town. They both are dirty and have shitty food and everyone says you MUST eat at one or the other because ONE of them will be the best fast food joint in town regardless. And if you don't eat at one, you're voting for the other. If more people eat at home, both restaurants might try harder to pick up those people that don't like shit sandwiches.

But in this case, McD's or BK will still win even if everyone stays home.

Trump drops out.

Ok it's satire, but would this shock anyone? Even if it was just a way for him to save face? Also, isn't this a great example of the MSM's bias? This guy, literally, wrote an article where he got to call all Republicans losers.

... but would this shock anyone?

Nah. Drumpf's no stranger to cutting and running when his ass is getting kicked in badly enough, usually while trying to shift the blame to others.

Also, isn't this a great example of the MSM's bias? This guy, literally, wrote an article where he got to call all Republicans losers.

Well, their party did just get jacked by Lex Luthor's less charismatic Cheeto-looking cousin.

Meanwhile: pot calls kettle black. Film at 11.

"She took a short-circuit in the brain. She's got problems," Trump said, seizing on Clinton's explanation that she "short-circuited" a recent answer about her truthfulness in discussing her email server.

"Honestly, I don't think she's all there," he added.

The attacks flowed from the Republican nominee as he once again tore into Clinton as "unstable," "unbalanced" and "totally unhinged."

GORDON wrote:But in this case, McD's or BK will still win even if everyone stays home.

That's why I stated that one of them will be rated best fast food restaurant in town regardless. The whole, "If you don't vote it's a vote for the other guy" argument is such horse shit. It's the two party system saying they own you and your vote. Just because I hate the other party's nominee doesn't mean you deserve my vote. Earn it. "I'm going to be less shitty than their guy" is not exactly motivating me to tak the time to go vote. Especially when you're pretty much offering me 95% of what they are.

The analogy works better if you are forced to pay for a burger and you get to pick either McD, Burger King, or just not getting a burger you have to pay for. Not getting the burger may be the best choice for you, but they still get your money so they don't really care.